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Technically a variant did go airborne. A version infected an import holding area containing imported monkeys in Reston Virginia. While it tested as Ebola at the time, it was non symptomatic in humans. In the monkeys it was lethal and airborne.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reston_virus

This is actually a gross misunderstanding of the difference between aerosol (droplet) and airborne transmission of pathogens. Many infections (flu, cold, etc.) infect the respiratory tract and are spread by droplets (e.g. sneezing). Some pathogens (e.g. TB) are airborne, which allows them to travel much farther and linger much longer. Droplet precautions include wearing of a surgical type mask. Airborne precautions require N95 mask and negative pressure rooms. The Reston virus was suspected to be transmitted through aerosol in actual cases and had been demonstrated to be capable of this in experiments, but it was not airborne, nor was it really conclusively determined to be actually spread in the wild through aerosol. Unlike Ebola, it could infect the respiratory tract.

Yes, an aerosol Ebola would be a bigger infectious threat, but far far from the danger of airborne Ebola. The first seems quite unlikely and the second seems nearly impossible.
 

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Alright I’ll give to that. Reston virus has caused asymptomatic infections but no disease. But I don’t recall it being determined it was a mutation that made it airborne. (Referring to truly airborne, not aerosol transmission).

Honestly what concerns me more is the studies done after the 2014 outbreak that indicate the virus may have undergone a mutation making human cells more preferential to it.

Agreed.
It’s not something to fuck around with. I’d be happy with a professional response to this outbreak by the international community.

I don’t want to have to rely on our response currently like we did while Obama was prez.
 

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This is actually a gross misunderstanding of the difference between aerosol (droplet) and airborne transmission of pathogens. Many infections (flu, cold, etc.) infect the respiratory tract and are spread by droplets (e.g. sneezing). Some pathogens (e.g. TB) are airborne, which allows them to travel much farther and linger much longer. Droplet precautions include wearing of a surgical type mask. Airborne precautions require N95 mask and negative pressure rooms. The Reston virus was suspected to be transmitted through aerosol in actual cases and had been demonstrated to be capable of this in experiments, but it was not airborne, nor was it really conclusively determined to be actually spread in the wild through aerosol. Unlike Ebola, it could infect the respiratory tract.

Yes, an aerosol Ebola would be a bigger infectious threat, but far far from the danger of airborne Ebola. The first seems quite unlikely and the second seems nearly impossible.
Well I bow to the superiority of your description. ;)
 

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I went into the "monkey house" in No VA where they had housed a bunch of wild monkeys that came with the ebola virus a while back. It was a year after the outbreak at the center but I was till scared as shit. If you ever get a chance read the book, The Hot Zone. Its true and very scary.

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"The Monkey House" chronicles the discovery of Reston virus among imported monkeys in Reston, Virginia, and the following actions taken by the U.S. Army and Centers for Disease Control. It starts with the monkey house receiving a shipment of 100 wild monkeys. After four weeks, 29 of these monkeys have died. This is followed by the veterinarian for the facility, Dan Dalgard, examining the dead monkeys and sending the samples to Peter Jahrling, a virologist at United States Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases. After seeing a rope-like virus under the microscope, it is suspected that the monkeys were infected with a hot agent similar to the Marburg virus. Jahrling then conducts a blood test to find out that the hot agent is the Ebola Zaire virus. This conclusion leads to the Army Medical Research Institute deciding to euthanize all the monkeys in the same room as the infected monkeys"

GREAT book. If you have not done so already read "The Demon in the Freezer" and "Panic in Level 4" which are also by Richard Preston. Three of the scariest books I've ever read.
 
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GREAT book. If you have not done so already read "The Demon in the Freezer" and "Panic in Level 4" which are also by Richard Preston. Three of the scariest books I've ever read.

Thanks I did read another Preston book but I cant remember what it was lol will check those out.