Confessions of a Wal-Mart Hit Man

[1prophet]

Confessions of a Wal-Mart Hit Man

Disturbing video from an insider on how Walmart conducts business, what bothered me the most is the so called unwritten rules that Walmart uses to hide behind as a method of plausible deniability.

I find it amazing and disturbing that all the managers save one from different districts knew about one of the unwritten rules, and quite illegal at that, to alter time cards for employees that went over 40 hours, I could see one or two or a few, yet it is hard to imagine all but one manager doing that or aware of it going on. There was a time when people in companies put principles before profit and did the right thing when facing an ethical dilema like altering timecards even if it put their jobs at risk.

Are people today so wicked and selfish today and put the fear of offending their boss before doing what is right (compared to a generation ago) since one can find so many that will alter someone elses time card and it would be considered the norm?

Or is a conscience considered an obstacle to achieving success in today's business climate?

 

[techs]

This old but important news.
Walmart has totally lost any perspective on how to run a business. They have so far overstepped any line of decency they are actually a criminal conspiracy.

 

[NTB]

Originally posted by: techs
This old but important news.
Walmart has totally lost any perspective on how to run a business. They have so far overstepped any line of decency they are actually a criminal conspiracy.

And how is that so different from any other big retail chain? They all pay piss-poor unless you get a few rungs up the ladder, and turnover is always high. I worked in Target for four years; started at $6.50 and ended at $7.35. And I saw more co-workers come and go than I care to count. That's the way retail is; people just single out Wal-mart because it's a big target.

Nate

 

[Tab]

Am I the only person on the forum who doesn't hate wal-mart?

 

[trenchfoot]

walmart...the perfect reason why unions exist in the USA.

 

[jhu]

Originally posted by: Tab
Am I the only person on the forum who doesn't hate wal-mart?

if you don't hate wal-mart, then the terrorists have already won!!!

 

[senseamp]

Whoremart sucks. Target is so much better, IMO. At least you don't feel like a lowlife shopping at Target.

 

[NTB]

Originally posted by: senseamp
Whoremart sucks. Target is so much better, IMO. At least you don't feel like a lowlife shopping at Target.

nope. There you just look and feel like a stuck-up snob. That's much better

And for the record, I've shopped at both. For a lot of things, there isn't much difference. Target is usually better for clothes, but (at least the ones I've seen) they've got nothing on Wally World's sporting goods department.

Nate

 

[1prophet]

Originally posted by: NTB

Originally posted by: techs
This old but important news.
Walmart has totally lost any perspective on how to run a business. They have so far overstepped any line of decency they are actually a criminal conspiracy.

And how is that so different from any other big retail chain? They all pay piss-poor unless you get a few rungs up the ladder, and turnover is always high. I worked in Target for four years; started at $6.50 and ended at $7.35. And I saw more co-workers come and go than I care to count. That's the way retail is; people just single out Wal-mart because it's a big target.

Nate

Paying piss poor is one thing, reducing your actual time worked by altering your time card without your consent is theft of services.

 

[NTB]

Originally posted by: 1prophet

Originally posted by: NTB

Originally posted by: techs
This old but important news.
Walmart has totally lost any perspective on how to run a business. They have so far overstepped any line of decency they are actually a criminal conspiracy.

And how is that so different from any other big retail chain? They all pay piss-poor unless you get a few rungs up the ladder, and turnover is always high. I worked in Target for four years; started at $6.50 and ended at $7.35. And I saw more co-workers come and go than I care to count. That's the way retail is; people just single out Wal-mart because it's a big target.

Nate

Paying piss poor is one thing, reducing your actual time worked by altering your time card without your consent is theft of services.

You're taking one man's word as holy writ. All the more power to you, but I prefer a broader perspective: I don't doubt *that* it happens, but do doubt that one particular company is the only place that it does.

Nate

 

[GalvanizedYankee]

Originally posted by: tweaker2
walmart...the perfect reason why unions exist in the USA.

The Wal-Marts in China are unionized....Go figure.!
China told Wal-Mart they had to be.

 

[NTB]

Originally posted by: GalvanizedYankee

Originally posted by: tweaker2
walmart...the perfect reason why unions exist in the USA.

The Wal-Marts in China are unionized....Go figure.!
China told Wal-Mart they had to be.

I might be wrong, but I *believe* unionization in China is optional. You're right in saying that the Chinese government told them they had to allow it, but the choice to actually organize is up to the workers. That said, China is still a semi-communist country, and some of the old beliefs are still very strong, including organized labor. So maybe they are all unionized by now.

Nate

 

[1prophet]

Originally posted by: NTB

Originally posted by: 1prophet

Originally posted by: NTB

Originally posted by: techs
This old but important news.
Walmart has totally lost any perspective on how to run a business. They have so far overstepped any line of decency they are actually a criminal conspiracy.

And how is that so different from any other big retail chain? They all pay piss-poor unless you get a few rungs up the ladder, and turnover is always high. I worked in Target for four years; started at $6.50 and ended at $7.35. And I saw more co-workers come and go than I care to count. That's the way retail is; people just single out Wal-mart because it's a big target.

Nate

Paying piss poor is one thing, reducing your actual time worked by altering your time card without your consent is theft of services.

You're taking one man's word as holy writ. All the more power to you, but I prefer a broader perspective: I don't doubt *that* it happens, but do doubt that one particular company is the only place that it does.

Nate

more than one man's word

I don't disagree with you that it happens elsewhere too, but what kind of person would cheat those that work for them without feeling guilty, would you let someone do it to you? And would you do it in turn to others?

And here is another


I don't believe the problem is with Walmart and the other stores as much as it is with the lack of ethics in this present day where morals are relative and doing the right thing like treating others the way you want to be treated is considered an expense that must be reduced.

 

[marvdmartian]

Shoot, I worked at a local grocery store in high school, and we were always told to check out paycheck amount against what we had actually worked, to make certain they got it right. One week, I had 41 hours, but when I got my paycheck, they had only paid me for 33 hours. I called them on it, the manager (the owner's son) checked, and sure enough....they had somehow "missed" my 8 hours!! He told me to get my time card for that week, and wrote an extra 8 hours onto it, then apologized for the "oversight".

I got the better deal, though, since, without the extra 8 hours, I had 36 hours of work that week! They ended up having to pay me 4 hours OT, versus the 1 they would have had to!!

 

[Vic]

Why oh why don't the poor shop at Costco??

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally posted by: 1prophet

I find it amazing and disturbing that all the managers save one from different districts knew about one of the unwritten rules, and quite illegal at that, to alter time cards for employees that went over 40 hours, I could see one or two or a few, yet it is hard to imagine all but one manager doing that or aware of it going on.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if this occurred in all sorts of businesses and not just at high profile stores. Heck, salaried employees could argue that they get abused all of the time too when they're asked to work 80 hours/week. That the employment market allows for this is just part of becoming a third world country, I guess.

 

[Jadow]

Originally posted by: Tab
Am I the only person on the forum who doesn't hate wal-mart?

I don't hate wal-mart. I shop there often. Last time I checked, they didn't have any slave drivers whipping employees, and people are free to quit.

 

[wiin]

Originally posted by: senseamp
Whoremart sucks. Target is so much better, IMO. At least you don't feel like a lowlife shopping at Target.

No one can make you feel like a lowlife but you. I spend money at walmart sometimes because they have the better price. The difference in price between walmart and rite aid for example can be huge., like up to 30.00. If you have 30.00 to burn, by all means, spend it somewhere else.

 

[wiin]

Originally posted by: GalvanizedYankee

Originally posted by: tweaker2
walmart...the perfect reason why unions exist in the USA.

The Wal-Marts in China are unionized....Go figure.!
China told Wal-Mart they had to be.

And then when they close, like they did in Canada, they can all have a crying party and move to america.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: 1prophet

Originally posted by: NTB

Originally posted by: 1prophet

Originally posted by: NTB

Originally posted by: techs
This old but important news.
Walmart has totally lost any perspective on how to run a business. They have so far overstepped any line of decency they are actually a criminal conspiracy.

And how is that so different from any other big retail chain? They all pay piss-poor unless you get a few rungs up the ladder, and turnover is always high. I worked in Target for four years; started at $6.50 and ended at $7.35. And I saw more co-workers come and go than I care to count. That's the way retail is; people just single out Wal-mart because it's a big target.

Nate

Paying piss poor is one thing, reducing your actual time worked by altering your time card without your consent is theft of services.

You're taking one man's word as holy writ. All the more power to you, but I prefer a broader perspective: I don't doubt *that* it happens, but do doubt that one particular company is the only place that it does.

Nate

more than one man's word

I don't disagree with you that it happens elsewhere too, but what kind of person would cheat those that work for them without feeling guilty, would you let someone do it to you? And would you do it in turn to others?

And here is another


I don't believe the problem is with Walmart and the other stores as much as it is with the lack of ethics in this present day where morals are relative and doing the right thing like treating others the way you want to be treated is considered an expense that must be reduced.

Its not the norm though. At most Wal Marts, they send the person home before they hit 40 hrs. They also tend to schedule hourly people 36 hours(which is fulltime at Wal Mart). If you go over that without a managers authorization, you get written up.

Wal Mart has the most lack rules ever regarding firing people. It takes A LOT to get fired from Wal Mart.

 

[imported_Lothar]

Originally posted by: techs
Walmart has totally lost any perspective on how to run a business.

And you know how to run a business?

 

[Specop 007]

Well gee, watched up to 2:30 and its still just a boo-hoo bitch session. Is there any relevence to this video besides pissing and moaning?

EDIT
Ok, around 3:20 they finally get to some valid points. Maybe this will be worth watching.

 

[LumbergTech]

Originally posted by: NTB

Originally posted by: 1prophet

Originally posted by: NTB

Originally posted by: techs
This old but important news.
Walmart has totally lost any perspective on how to run a business. They have so far overstepped any line of decency they are actually a criminal conspiracy.

And how is that so different from any other big retail chain? They all pay piss-poor unless you get a few rungs up the ladder, and turnover is always high. I worked in Target for four years; started at $6.50 and ended at $7.35. And I saw more co-workers come and go than I care to count. That's the way retail is; people just single out Wal-mart because it's a big target.

Nate

Paying piss poor is one thing, reducing your actual time worked by altering your time card without your consent is theft of services.

You're taking one man's word as holy writ. All the more power to you, but I prefer a broader perspective: I don't doubt *that* it happens, but do doubt that one particular company is the only place that it does.

Nate

the only conclusion i can draw from what you say is that because so many companies do it..that its ok..not everyone believes that..and while you are correct that walmart often gets singled out, they are a huge business and therefore can cause the most harm in this way simply by ability..it makes sense to start with them when you are talking about dealing with this type of issue, that isnt to say that it shouldnt be expanded to other companies.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Jadow

Originally posted by: Tab
Am I the only person on the forum who doesn't hate wal-mart?

I don't hate wal-mart. I shop there often. Last time I checked, they didn't have any slave drivers whipping employees, and people are free to quit.

And they are free to hate Walmart too. Do you have a point?

 

[Jadow]

Yes, my point was that people CHOOSE to work at wal Mart, and they can choose to quit. Pretty obvious if you ask me, but I can't comment on your reading comprehension skills.