my parents knew better than to take my sister or I to non-family restaurants (also, when we were younger, we couldn't afford it
same for going to the movies/shows/etc)
my parents knew better than to take my sister or I to non-family restaurants (also, when we were younger, we couldn't afford it
same for going to the movies/shows/etc)Not really man...my kid can be a real pain in the ass like any kid. The difference between my kid and some of these other brats is that mine understands that there is a difference between what is acceptable to do at home vs what is acceptable to do in public. Kids who are taught properly will feel embarrassed by throwing fits and causing scenes in public. Kids who are not taught well do no understand the difference.
Also, like I mentioned in an earlier post, cleaning up after kids is part of the job if you work in a restaurant. You should know that and accept it before turning in your application.
Try having kids first then come back and post here.
I do agree with her on a couple of points the restaurant/waitstaff should not be responsible for heat up baby bottles and baby food unless they offer it on the menu. Feed the rugrat either before you go out or after you get home.
I'm sure it is harder and I support venting. We all need to vent sometimes. At least families beat the customers who refuse to tip at all though right?
Ya, that's pushing it. In fact, I don't ever recall seeing a waiter or waitress come out from the kitchen with a baby bottle or baby food. Most parents will serve it room temperature or just order some cold milk.
Homerboy
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Thats not the kid's fault. Thats the HORRIBLE parents. Has nothing to do with the kids at that point. I would assume anyone that would expect the wait staff to do that for them is a a-hole in general. The bigger problem here is people's attitudes towards what they feel they are owed, expect and feel they are entitled too.
When I'm at a restaurant or some place "public" we are guests there and treat it as so but in return do expect to be treated as guests also. Just as if I was in somebodies house I guess.
I respect the people serving me and those around me. That is the way I was raised and my children are raised.
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I'd like to say that she DOESN'T speak for every waiter/waitress/manager/cook/bartender (since when are kids in bars?) out there on this subject. I worked in restaurants from the time I was 16 through the end of college, and yes there are bratty kids, but at the same time there are many more very well behaved and polite kids that come in. And for the most part a meal is a meal, the more people at the table the bigger the bill, and the bigger the tip.
I also think it's funny how she points out how little the wage is for tipped workers, but fails to point out that in most states if a tipped worker gets so few tips that their hourly is under the real minimum wage, then they get paid the difference by the restaurant, so no matter what they make at least minimum wage.
Serving people is all about attitude, and hers sucks. I knew people who would make $200+ in tips in a night in a Denny's style restaurant (Friendly's, up in the NE), simply because they had a great attitude, and understood that there's bad that comes with the job, but it's far outweighed by the good. They enjoyed what they did, were polite to people, did their job well, and were rewarded for it.
I also think it's funny how she points out how little the wage is for tipped workers, but fails to point out that in most states if a tipped worker gets so few tips that their hourly is under the real minimum wage, then they get paid the difference by the restaurant, so no matter what they make at least minimum wage.
Serving people is all about attitude, and hers sucks. I knew people who would make $200+ in tips in a night in a Denny's style restaurant (Friendly's, up in the NE), simply because they had a great attitude, and understood that there's bad that comes with the job, but it's far outweighed by the good. They enjoyed what they did, were polite to people, did their job well, and were rewarded for it.
JulesMaximus
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Why not? I've asked waitresses to heat up a bottle for my son when he was a baby and none of them ever had a problem with it. Jesus, toss it in a microwave for 30 seconds, how fucking hard is that? :roll:
I'm guessing you don't have children because you seem to be pretty clueless about them.
I dont think its too much to ask the server to get you a thing of hot water so you can heat up your baby's bottle... you're not supposed to microwave bottles because it can heat unevenly which can burn babies' throats. Hence using hot water to evenly heat milk...
Its the same thing as asking for hot tea, put the fucking teapot on and shaddup... earn your tip somehow instead of just assuming you deserve it.
Its the same thing as asking for hot tea, put the fucking teapot on and shaddup... earn your tip somehow instead of just assuming you deserve it.
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Ummm she wasn't asked for a microwave for a bottle - she was asked for a 'hot water basin'. And it may not be hard to do but considering the fact its probably not going to lead to $1 for her tip why on earth should she feel obligated to do special things for you when she has 5-6 other customers to wait on?
Its funny seeing people with kids so adamantly think that their kids are perfect that they are clueless to what those of us non-kid having people see on a regular basis that makes us feel the exact same way as this lady.
Confessions of a patron: I hate when I have to suck on ice cubes to cure my thirst because you're too busy standing around in the back trying to decide which busboy you're going to bang that night. So shut the fuck up and bring me another diet coke.
She also fails to mention that many waiters in metro's fine restaurants (LA, SF, NYC) make $100k+ and the average CA waiter clears close to $30/hour. And then imagine all the places that pay under the table and not pay taxes and collect welfare.
Waiters are useless.
So the stereotype is that asians and blacks don't tip well so waiters should automatically give bad service? have they ever thought that they get bad tips because they give bad service to asians and blacks?
hanoverphist
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mine dont. they giggle, make faces, play with stuff on the table and whatever else catches their fancy. they are kids. i started training my kids in restaurants young, and now they are well behaved 10 yr olds. they have had decent manners since they got out of the booster chairs. kids like you guys describe are the product of their parents, not the norm for all kids. and guess what? when we get a snobby wait person, my kids notice their attitude and dont like them.
if you decide that a family at a table is too much trouble to deal with and ignore them, your tip ill suck whether they made a mess or not, and it will be all your fault. if im ignored more than reasonable, ill talk to the manager about you and make sure it is known how crappy of a waiter you are. if youre another customer sitting next to my family and think its annoying to hear us talk about our day, come on over and express that to me. i always need examples of asshats to teach my kids how not to be when they get older.
btw, i was a very good waiter in my younger years, and waited tables or a few restaurants from classy to pizza hut. kids are fun, and your job is to cater to your customers needs. iff you cant do that, find another job.
JulesMaximus
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wheresmybacon
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"wah wah wah ima waitress. customers are mean and they suck. WAAAHHH!!!!" :thumbsdown:
It's customer fucking service. It's not hard work. Annoying? Maybe. Stressful? Sometimes. If you don't like being a waitress to supplement your income then get a new job. Or maybe get some more education. Ever think of that? Oh that's hard work I know. :roll:
STFU and get a new job if it sucks so bad. Servers that complain like this usually end up being servers for a very long time because of one thing: they think the world owes them something when it doesn't. Keep crying lady.
PS don't forget my Diet Coke.
It's customer fucking service. It's not hard work. Annoying? Maybe. Stressful? Sometimes. If you don't like being a waitress to supplement your income then get a new job. Or maybe get some more education. Ever think of that? Oh that's hard work I know. :roll:
STFU and get a new job if it sucks so bad. Servers that complain like this usually end up being servers for a very long time because of one thing: they think the world owes them something when it doesn't. Keep crying lady.
PS don't forget my Diet Coke.
hanoverphist
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have you never heard of shaking it and waiting maybe 30 sec to let the temps even out? my god its not that difficult a concept. by the time it got back to the table, the temp would be pretty much evened out, and that 10 second shake you do will do the rest of it or ya. take a chance, stop listening to every child care book on the shelf.
it was rare that i would take my babies out to "fine" restaurants, but it was an occasional thing with family for holidays/ special events. in these cases, the kids were fed before we went. if they became loud or started fussing, they usually ended up outside with a bottle. id say her main complaints come from those kids bad parents and her lack of compassion for anything/ anyone that gets in the way of her own personal feeling of convenience.
JulesMaximus
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Yep, just give it a few shakes and then squeeze out a bit onto your wrist. If it's too hot let it cool for a few minutes.
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Dunno about others, but Indians are notoriously bad tippers (I'm Indian myself) & as a result even in Indian restaurants, the Indian waiters hate serving Indians.
I'm a pretty generous tipper, 20% for excellent service, 15% for good, 10% for others (unless the waiter/waitress is downright rude). Exception : Run-of-the-mill Indian restaurants since I get treated there like crap w/o exception.
BrokenVisage
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I'm with you. Sure she's generalizing, but in general kids ARE a nuisance! Parents should know what their kids are capable of and not take them certain places where they can't control how they act. I'm sorry if that restricts them from places they want to be with their kid but tough shit, why potentially ruin the experience for many just because YOU want to be there with your needy, whiny, smelly kid?
Granted I've never been in the food service industry in any capacity, however my best friend and sister have 10+ years of experience between them and I get stories from them all the time. Not always about stuff like this, but many of them do involve parents who bring their bratty kids along and end up causing people around them to ask to be moved and/or ask for discounts and rebates on their food because of the disruptive atmosphere they create. I know that the "parents of ATOT" will take umbridge with this but I don't give a fuck, chances are most of you know/knew better with your kid anyway, one can only hope.
On a side note, thank god movie theaters are getting the message and will institute a 'no child' rule with some showings. More businesses should do something like this to some extent so people who make a conscious effort to try and avoid such situations don't have to always chance going someplace where they can eat/shop/be entertained peacefully.
Now go ahead and flame my insensitive perspective, but I'll refer you to the "I don't give a fuck" in the last sentence 2 paragraphs up.
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