Confession: For the first time I will be voting for a Democrat in governor race

[blackangst1]

I have been a middle of the road voter for a long time (how many times have you guys accused me of #bothsides?). I have typically voted both sides of the ticket in every election. With that said, for governor races I typically vote GOP for various reasons. Not this year. We all have our top 3 issues we vote on (gun rights, abortion, whatever) but this year I have vowed to not vote for anyone who supports the claim Trump lost 2020 because the election was stolen. That is my hot button this year.

I dont agree with everything the D rep Katie Hobbs agenda, but Kari Lake (R) has aligned herself with the Stop The Steal movement, and has been quoted as saying if she loses in November, it would be due to rigged elections or voter fraud. FUCK THAT. That is my hot button. I vow not to vote for any candidate that is in this mindset.

Dont get me wrong. There are IMHO some good R candidates for local races, but for the most part they havent been swept up in this madness.

 

[vi edit]

I know we have had disagreements, but it takes some courage to stand up. Now try and convince others that live in your state to do the same. That's where the real work is. The number of election deniers on ballots this fall is spooky. We're in perilous territory right now.

 

[Pens1566]

I mean Lake is a nutball for various other reasons as well, but ok?

 

[K1052]

I also would recommend probably not voting for Finchem as SOS if you don't like crazy election deniers.

 

[Commodus]

I have been a middle of the road voter for a long time (how many times have you guys accused me of #bothsides?). I have typically voted both sides of the ticket in every election. With that said, for governor races I typically vote GOP for various reasons. Not this year. We all have our top 3 issues we vote on (gun rights, abortion, whatever) but this year I have vowed to not vote for anyone who supports the claim Trump lost 2020 because the election was stolen. That is my hot button this year.

I dont agree with everything the D rep Katie Hobbs agenda, but Kari Lake (R) has aligned herself with the Stop The Steal movement, and has been quoted as saying if she loses in November, it would be due to rigged elections or voter fraud. FUCK THAT. That is my hot button. I vow not to vote for any candidate that is in this mindset.

Dont get me wrong. There are IMHO some good R candidates for local races, but for the most part they havent been swept up in this madness.

Thanks for that. I'm sure you'll get some criticism, but it's important to recognize when someone changes their vote based on good principles.

I'll ask you to consider more Dem votes down the ticket. Not just because some Republicans are just as off-the-rails as Lake, but because the current GOP strategy to rig elections is partly built on winning state and municipal contests that let them disenfranchise more voters.

 

[ivwshane]

I’m glad your red line is election denial. Hopefully you hold that standard for all your votes because these next few elections are pretty black and white, even more so compared to 2016.

 

[Jaskalas]

Refusing to accept elections is certainly a line that should not be crossed.
I for one welcome to you a "still crazy but not THAT crazy" fold as we vote Dem.

 

[Indus]

I don't like rednecks.

But this redneck might have a point.

 

[fskimospy]

I’m glad to see you say this. If candidates stop accepting the fact that they lost then we no longer have a democracy. Policy disagreements are fine - I hate Mitt Romney’s policies but would 100% vote for him over a Democrat who engaged in conspiracy theorizing about election results.

Then again it’s always easy to say that in the hypothetical, not so easy in practice, so I applaud your consistency when you have skin in the game.

 

[dank69]

... There are IMHO some good R candidates for local races, ...

lol

 

[Fenixgoon]

now you're a dirty liberal hippy like the rest of us! welcome to the club!

 

[Drach]

Props.

 

[TheVrolok]

Good on ya mate.

 

[compcons]

...
Dont get me wrong. There are IMHO some good R candidates for local races, but for the most part they havent been swept up in this madness.

You are going to be shocked to learn that it's not just deniers you have to worry about. You can use Google to find other articles and videos that contain first hand accounts of the plan to steal all elections forever. And it isn't just voter ID laws. It is a whole fucking blueprint Republicans will use.

Weiterleitungshinweis

 

[Fanatical Meat]

@blackangst1 you showed real courage today. I do not expect you to be voting for Warren or AOC and that is fine. You drew an important line imo and you are going to follow thru with it until presumably something changes. Good work.
I never thought of you as a deplorable, both sider yeah…
Regardless god for you. Good for you showing courage on the forums.

 

[JWade]

I know we have had disagreements, but it takes some courage to stand up. Now try and convince others that live in your state to do the same. That's where the real work is. The number of election deniers on ballots this fall is spooky. We're in perilous territory right now.

Democrats have admitted to promoting, funding those election deniers in the runoffs, in hopes on election day more people will vote Democrat. Really not a bad strategy, hope it doesnt backfire on them. Problem with it though is like here, alot of people will judge all Republicans as being that way. But there are just as many far left crazies as far right ones (Still to this day HRC says she didnt loose), but i guess the crazy democrats get a pass

 

[ivwshane]

Democrats have admitted to promoting, funding those election deniers in the runoffs, in hopes on election day more people will vote Democrat. Really not a bad strategy, hope it doesnt backfire on them. Problem with it though is like here, alot of people will judge all Republicans as being that way. But there are just as many far left crazies as far right ones (Still to this day HRC says she didnt loose), but i guess the crazy democrats get a pass

Just because you make claims, doesn’t mean it’s true. The only truth you put forward was that some democrats have used the strategy of supporting crazy Republican candidates. The rest is just right wrong propaganda and bothsidesism.

 

[WelshBloke]

Democrats have admitted to promoting, funding those election deniers in the runoffs, in hopes on election day more people will vote Democrat.

I don't even fund people I agree with, I find it hard to believe that people are funding their opposition!

 

[JWade]

which part isnt true? HRC herself has said she didnt loose, that the election was taken from her. People on these forums do lump all republicans into the Trumpster/MAGA group. Bothsideism? Well both sides are equally guilty, but people on the left give Democrat officials a pass, people on the right give Republican officials a pass. Those are facts, again look at pretty much any thread, there is no equality in treatment when it comes to politics. one side says its wrong, but then they do the same thing.

 

[JWade]

i wont link any foxnews articles, everyone here knows they are fake news

I don't even fund people I agree with, I find it hard to believe that people are funding their opposition!

Why Democrats Are Funding the GOP Fringe - WSJ

Why Democrats are paying for ads supporting Republican primary candidates : NPR

See the ads Democrats are funding to boost extreme Republicans - Washington Post

Democrats Have Spent $20M Trying to Help Trump-Loving GOP Candidates Win (newsweek.com)

 

[Fanatical Meat]

which part isnt true? HRC herself has said she didnt loose, that the election was taken from her. People on these forums do lump all republicans into the Trumpster/MAGA group. Bothsideism? Well both sides are equally guilty, but people on the left give Democrat officials a pass, people on the right give Republican officials a pass. Those are facts, again look at pretty much any thread, there is no equality in treatment when it comes to politics. one side says its wrong, but then they do the same thing.

She won the Popular vote, that is what she was talking about. She WAS NOT saying she should have been in office. She admitted defeat.
Don’t be stupid.

 

[ivwshane]

which part isnt true? HRC herself has said she didnt loose, that the election was taken from her. People on these forums do lump all republicans into the Trumpster/MAGA group. Bothsideism? Well both sides are equally guilty, but people on the left give Democrat officials a pass, people on the right give Republican officials a pass. Those are facts, again look at pretty much any thread, there is no equality in treatment when it comes to politics. one side says its wrong, but then they do the same thing.

Nope. You are still spewing bull shit. In fact here I am stating that there is indeed a difference.

Maybe for some but I have stated many times that there is a difference between, a righty, a Republican, a conservative, and a gun nutter.

 

[WelshBloke]

i wont link any foxnews articles, everyone here knows they are fake news



Why Democrats Are Funding the GOP Fringe - WSJ

Why Democrats are paying for ads supporting Republican primary candidates : NPR

See the ads Democrats are funding to boost extreme Republicans - Washington Post

Democrats Have Spent $20M Trying to Help Trump-Loving GOP Candidates Win (newsweek.com)

It's funny, I guess it depends on your perspective but most of those ads didn't look supportive to me!

 

[eelw]

Chris Krebs the former cybersecurity director under the orange monkey, right now in an interview said he’s an one issue voter. If you’re an election denier, he won’t vote for them.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Democrats have admitted to promoting, funding those election deniers in the runoffs, in hopes on election day more people will vote Democrat. Really not a bad strategy, hope it doesnt backfire on them. Problem with it though is like here, alot of people will judge all Republicans as being that way. But there are just as many far left crazies as far right ones (Still to this day HRC says she didnt loose), but i guess the crazy democrats get a pass

-Funding a candidate doesn't mean they're going to win. These whackoos are still winning those (often closed so only Rep voters get a say) primaries and polling far better than they have any right to when they reach the general.

I feel like there was this like three day period back in the 90's where Republicans were just good old fashioned Don't Tax Me Bros but its been kinda a mess since.