Condoms have questionable effectiveness against most common STDs
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Personally I feel we should all be smart enough to know that nothing is 100% anyway...
I understand your point though.
Soo....I might as well not use condoms then right? I mean hey, if they dont really work all that well to begin with, I might as well at least get the full feel right?
0roo0roo
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scare tactics are always fun.
ooooo scary!
The evidence for this is clearest in studies of couples in which one person is infected with HIV and the other not. i.e. "discordant couples". In a study of discordant couples in Europe, among 123 couples who reported consistent condom use, none of the uninfected partners became infected.1 In contrast, among the 122 couples who used condoms inconsistently, 12 of the uninfected partners became infected.
In the laboratory, latex condoms are very effective at blocking transmission of HIV because the pores in latex condoms are too small to allow the virus to pass through. However, outside of the laboratory condoms are less effective because people do not always use condoms properly.
ihttp://www.avert.org/condoms.htm#2
but then again, you never know when someone hiv positive will bleed on you. remember that the next time u have a fist fight
best never to leave the house, risk is everywhere.
btw condoms don't stop sars either :disgust:
ooooo scary!
The evidence for this is clearest in studies of couples in which one person is infected with HIV and the other not. i.e. "discordant couples". In a study of discordant couples in Europe, among 123 couples who reported consistent condom use, none of the uninfected partners became infected.1 In contrast, among the 122 couples who used condoms inconsistently, 12 of the uninfected partners became infected.
In the laboratory, latex condoms are very effective at blocking transmission of HIV because the pores in latex condoms are too small to allow the virus to pass through. However, outside of the laboratory condoms are less effective because people do not always use condoms properly.
ihttp://www.avert.org/condoms.htm#2
but then again, you never know when someone hiv positive will bleed on you. remember that the next time u have a fist fight
best never to leave the house, risk is everywhere.btw condoms don't stop sars either :disgust:
BeauJangles
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i'm not sure whose job it is to make this common knowledge....if someone has questions, they can always ask their doctor. in terms of public health policy, it would seem more effective if this type of information was disseminated at the junior high and high school level health/sex-ed classes, but then you face all those problems w/the conservative school districts not wanting certain information to be made available....
Amused
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HPV (the virus that causes venereal warts) is a nasty thing to get, I'm sure. But realize that there are equally, and worse diseases one can get that Condoms are VERY effective at stopping.
The fact that condoms are not very effective at stopping HPV IS common knowledge, if you educate yourself. HPV (warts) can appear BELOW the area covered by condoms in men, and can be spread to that area by women.
So, in short, don't think for a second that not wearing a condom is a good idea.
The fact that condoms are not very effective at stopping HPV IS common knowledge, if you educate yourself. HPV (warts) can appear BELOW the area covered by condoms in men, and can be spread to that area by women.
So, in short, don't think for a second that not wearing a condom is a good idea.
condoms can't prevent contact with genital warts caused by HPV and breakouts from HSV II. this thought this was common knowledge.
Exactly. Condoms are close to 100% safe with the exception of the parts not covered by the rubber.
dullard
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They were never meant to help with STDs. They don't advertize that either. It is just stupidity thinking that you are 100% safe by using them. This is common knowledge I've had in every health course (every year in school from 5th grade on to 10th grade). Condoms reduce the chance of pregnancy - and that is all they are meant for.
Think of it this way - condoms fail for ~10% of users each year (meaning they let the sperm through and get the woman pregnant). Well if the sperm is getting through the STDs are as well. Duh. Again common knowledge.
Many STDs have already been transmitted even before intercourse - meaning a condom never had the chance to work. Have you ever touched someone's genital region (with hands or anything else)? This is quite typical for foreplay. And all this will easilly transmit many STDs - without ever having intercourse... Again common knowledge.
Let me ask you this: where did the medical community say condoms will prevent STD transmission?
Think of it this way - condoms fail for ~10% of users each year (meaning they let the sperm through and get the woman pregnant). Well if the sperm is getting through the STDs are as well. Duh. Again common knowledge.
Many STDs have already been transmitted even before intercourse - meaning a condom never had the chance to work. Have you ever touched someone's genital region (with hands or anything else)? This is quite typical for foreplay. And all this will easilly transmit many STDs - without ever having intercourse... Again common knowledge.
Let me ask you this: where did the medical community say condoms will prevent STD transmission?
kranky
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Don't know for sure, but I would have a lot more respect for Planned Parenthood-type organizations if they would make their best effort to tell the whole story. When I see how many YAGT threads contain post after post of "Hit it! Hit it!", I wonder how many members really understand that a condom, while better than nothing, isn't an impervious shield against all known STDs.
Hell, look at 0roo0roo's post above. He thinks it's a scare tactic.
Look at the posts in illusion88's thread where he chose not to sleep with a drunk girl. More than half the posters think he is stupid for not screwing the girl. If people knew how easy it is to catch an STD I don't believe they would be so gung-ho about it. Condom use is at an all-time high, yet the STD infection rate continues to grow. I think that would make people wonder.
How can you feel betrayed? Don't you know if you come in contact with the virus you run a strong chance of contracting it? A condom only covers the penis so if you have any skin-to-skin contact you should expect to be in danger. Its not having one on makes you immune, its simply a cover and fluid barrier. I don't think the medical community has ever said to have all the promiscious sex you want if you wear a condom, they just advise you're safer wearing and thats still the case.
Truth be told, I feel a little disappointed in all the people who don't seek out health information. Why not research things a little if you value your sexual health?
Truth be told, I feel a little disappointed in all the people who don't seek out health information. Why not research things a little if you value your sexual health?
Actually, every sexual health site I've seen clearly denotes that condoms are not 100% effective against herpes and HPV.
Anyone who does the slightest amount of research can figure that out.
I'm with Soybomb in that if one values their sexual health, then they should be doing their own research.
People today are too dumb and lazy; they expect every single footnote, warning, and caveat to be HIGHLIGHTED and in BOLD PRINT, and presented to them on a silver platter in prominent notice on the packaging, and if they still don't see it, they get pissed off that no one gave them a clue. Screw that. That's the same reason why we have "Caution: HOT" on steaming cups of coffee and "do not let children use as a toy" on plastic bags.
Common sense, people. Use it.
Anyone who does the slightest amount of research can figure that out.
I'm with Soybomb in that if one values their sexual health, then they should be doing their own research.
People today are too dumb and lazy; they expect every single footnote, warning, and caveat to be HIGHLIGHTED and in BOLD PRINT, and presented to them on a silver platter in prominent notice on the packaging, and if they still don't see it, they get pissed off that no one gave them a clue. Screw that. That's the same reason why we have "Caution: HOT" on steaming cups of coffee and "do not let children use as a toy" on plastic bags.
Common sense, people. Use it.
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