Computers that boot up instantly....

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wasn't there something about using flash memory or something so that computers would turn on and go into windows a lot quicker than they do now? just curious if you all have heard of that...
 

MeanMeosh

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<< Computers that boot up instantly.... >>



the x-box. it has a stripped down version of win2k that boots up in .8 secs (i know, the head developer person gave a talk at my school :p)
 

MrCodeDude

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Never heard of it. But that would be pretty cool for now. But soon it'd be the normal and we'd want something faster.
-- mrcodedude
 

BigToque

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I'm sure it could be done, it would just be quite expensive. You would need almost 1gb.

I'm pretty sure Win2k takes 1.2GB
 

SinNisTeR

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my old computer starts up instantly, out of the blue it just turns on by its self.. no joke.
 

Phunktion

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A solid-state hard drive could feasibly be able to do that with the right hardware conditions for the transfer rate..
 

OutHouse

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I have setup a few terminals at work that use "Skinny NT" its not instant on but pretty close.


**edit: about 20 seconds to get to a NT desktop.
 

Emma

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Yes, I've heard that that is the next big step in developing computers. But how fast is flash memory? What is needed is a non-static, high-speed RAM.
 

BD2003

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Basically, you'd need on big flash ROM drive, probably about 512mb or so. Because even though Win2k takes up 1.2gb, only as much memory as youre using when it settles down is how much it actually loads. Give and take a few megs in the process for various purposes. The boot image would be modified as necessary.

512 would more than likely be enough, and if you had a sustained transfer rate of 100Mbps, thats only a few seconds...

Last time I checked, 512mb of CF was only like $200 or so. In a year or two, itll be half that.

This functionality would likely have to be built into the OS, so its up to MS I guess. Its certainly not technically infeasbile or even all too expensive, it just boils down to be an expensive extra with the sole purpose of booting. Since most people just boot for 30 secs, and leave it on until it crashes, I dont know many people willing to pay.
 

Barnaby W. Füi

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<< Yes, I've heard that that is the next big step in developing computers. But how fast is flash memory? What is needed is a non-static, high-speed RAM. >>

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i think you mean static ram, static=stays the same, regular ram is non-static, IE dynamic.

mram is the next step!!!!!!!

IBM is working on it. theoretically it will be:

(vs. dram that is)
faster, cooler, lower voltage, STATIC data storage

and its not by just little bits, its like 3 times faster, uses 1 tenth the voltage, etc.

read up on it, i dont remember the details, i'm just blabbing.

EDIT: back from google:p



<< Over the next five years, further iterations of Parkin's MRAM chips will become increasingly smaller and able to hold more data. But with each successive prototype, a range of microfabrication obstacles must be resolved. And IBM will also have to hammer out the best methods for mass production. After that, MRAM chips could be available to consumers at a cost comparable to DRAM, since MRAM doesn't need all the supporting circuitry to connect with a power source. But because it cuts out the delays associated with transferring electricity between the power source and the chip, MRAM would be up to 30 times faster. >>


:Q 30 times faster!!

link
 

Nemesis77

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How about a computer that boots over ethernet? Espesially if you use gigabit ethernet. I have been experimenting with the Linux Terminal Server, and the client PC seems to boot a bit faster than a regular PC. And I used regular 100Mbit ethernet and the server was OLD (120mhz Pentium).

EDIT: Oh, it's for Windows. Forget it then.