computer won't boot with visiontek geforce 4

[travler]

Put this in generalbecause it has a wider scope than just video.

I have a geforce 4 ti-4400 I put in my computer with the following specs

T-bird 1Ghz
Iwill KK266 KT133A
512MB PC133
2 Maxtor 40GB
Cd-ROM
on board C-media
PSU sparkle 300W (200W max load) and also tried with a enhance 300W)

system boots and runs fine with radeon 32MB DDR LE, but when i pit the GF4 in it, it wont even display. the CD flashes rapidly, HD sounds like its working but no video. I have to manualy turn the power off, because the front power switch wont work after i turn it on with the GF4 in it.

I have heard there are voltage issues with some AGP slots and GF4s, but i cant confirm this, or if it may be the problem. Almost seems power related from the way it acts when I turn it on.

I didnt intend this card to go in this computer, but am waiting on an RMAed MB before i can test it on another computer.

any sugestions, or comments would be apreciated.

also has anyone goten a GF4 ti to work in an Iwill XP333. that is the board I want to replace the RMA, but not if it wont run this card.

Travler

 

[tboneuls]

Make sure your PS is big enough - soulds like you did that. Also, some cards can operate in 2x or 4x mode, your MB may be looking for the wrong kind. Also, make sure the card is fully seated. It seams like a simple thing, but it sure freaked me out when I built my new computer. Look in the MB manual and make sure that you have the AGP voltage set correctly.

 

[travler]

<< Make sure your PS is big enough - soulds like you did that. Also, some cards can operate in 2x or 4x mode, your MB may be looking for the wrong kind. Also, make sure the card is fully seated. It seams like a simple thing, but it sure freaked me out when I built my new computer. Look in the MB manual and make sure that you have the AGP voltage set correctly. >>



Thabks for your reply. Yes there is absolutly no reason why my PSU isnt good enough. its rated better than many 350W units. disabling 4x in the BIOS didnt help. 4x is enabled by default. It was seated as far as it would go. I even had to bend the metal part that you screw in, so that I could puch it in further. If it is a seating issue im not sure what kind of seathing the thing wants if not all the way in.

As for AGP voltage- my MB does not allow chainging the voltage. at least no way in the BIOS.

I did finf a post on a mesage board after lots of diging that said somehting about some boards start AGP at a low voltage untill after POST when it incrases. I cannot verify that. has anyone heard something similar? If it is true, and if it is true with this MB than It simply wont work no matter what.


Does anyone have a visiontek Georce 4 ti-4400/4600 installed on an Iwill XP333? I want to get that board if this card will work on it.

thanks,

Travler

 

[travler]

Anyone hear of this problem?

Also has anyone put a GF4 TI in an nforce 415-D and got it working? If so then I will be geting the ASUS nforce

THanks,

Travler

 

[BD231]

Tried any BIOS updates?

 

[Boobers]

Are you using the October BIOS? I have two of those Iwill KK266's and have never had a MB that was more stable. I'm only running GF2 Pro vid cards, though.

I do know this, they are very picky about PSU's. Some people can not get XP processors to work with them unless the PSU can supply enough wattage on the 5v line. I use 430W Enermax PSU's, and they seem to work fine. I just don't like Sparkle PSU's. I'd recommemd either an Antec or Enermax that is at LEAST 350W, especially if you plan to upgrade to a XP333 DDR with an XP processor (in the future).

 

[travler]

yes I am using october Bios update. And i have to agee this is probably the most stable VIA board on the market. I love this iwill. works wonderfuly with my GF2 MX, and radeon LE. It still could be that the GF4 is a dud, but somehow i am not betting that way. especialy after reading about 6 posts now during my week long search that indicate that Iwills do not suply enough juice to the AGP to run GF4, though they meet AGP specs.

I guess I will have to let you all know what happens next week when I get my Asus nforce 415-D board. VIA can kiss my ass after the last debacle. And to think i even defended them on this very board last week hhehe. wel I did make a valid argument. if you want to say VIA sucks at least you can back it up with an anectdote if not hard evidence.

 

[Pilsnerpete]

hi boobers lmao

 

[StanTheMan]

I knew this from forums.viaarena.com:
the problem is, the card need 1.5v to initialize (to boot) while the moherboard only supply 0.9v.
As the result, the display is blank and the card is not initialized.

If you can try to exchange it with the card from other manufacturer.

 

[Bozo Galora]

I think there should be a class action lawsuit against nvidia for selling cards (GF4) that wont even boot in
about 30% of the boards they are put in. They are so madly chasing performance numbers that they
have left the mobo makers in the dust, with vidcards that demand so much instantaneous voltage
they wont even work at all for the hapless consumer who shells out his hard earned $400.
Its a disgrace that we even put up with this crap.
What would you do if you bought a TV for $400, and plugged it in and turned it on and got no picture?

Open message to NVidia:

IF IT DOESNT WORK IN 100% OF MOBO OUT THERE, THEN SPECIFY WHICH FRIGGIN' BOARDS THEY WILL
WORK IN, OR DON'T SELL IT AT ALL!!!!!!!

 

[travler]

Amen to that. Further diging I found someone who got a response from Iwill regarding a similar issue with some GF4 MX400 cards. In rather broken english they said that the cards were pulling more juice than they should be and therefore the cards were out of spec, not their motherboard.

I would be alot more upset if I had intended to put this card in this board. as it is I am just waiting on an RMA board for a diferent computer.

Definatly some type of message needs to be sent to manufacturers . If it is outside of specs set up by whoever governs such things, then they shoudl have to advertise it as such.