Computer will not post at all, seem to have tested every part individually, need help

PhateX1337

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Okay yall, I'm posting this problem for a friend so bear with me. If you have any questions feel free to post em or contact me in any way and I will try to figure them out as soon as possible if I do not already know them. Keep in mind that the main question he is asking here is "Why Will it Not Post?"

Originally posted by: StrykerI've been working on this computer for about 5 months now and i cannot seem to get the thing to post. Its an MSI K8N Neo2 platnium mother board, AMD Athlon64 3500+ newcastle core, ATi X800 pro, i have 3 different types of RAM bc i thought that was the problem for awhile. I have some samsung ram i baught 3 years ago and have been transferring from computer to computer, i have some corsair value select that i dont know works, and some compusa brand "BRAVO" that im not sure works. At least the last two have never been in a working computer. I also have a 250GB Maxtor Diamondmax HD.

Ive tried to individually tested most of the parts in some way or another. WHen i had the gigabyte mobo i tested another ahtlon64 processor but it was venice core. Ive baught a new mobo. I have 3 different types of ram. Ive but my HD in another computer and run it as a slave and everything works fine. Ive never tested it as a master in another machine. my video card as worked in another machine, so im pretty sure it works.

I know this is a very complicated problem and if you dont understand it please ask questions and i will be happy to answer them. Any help on this problem would be greatly appriciated because im about to the point of giving up. Thank you.

The Bravo ram he is referring to is the PNY ram he bought at Compusa that says Bravo on the chips...

 

wpshooter

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Are you using a CRT or an LCD ?

If it is LCD, do you have it set for analog mode or digital mode ?

Make sure the mode you set it to, matches the cabling that you are bringing from the video card to the LCD. I would highly recommend that you stick with analog (at least at first) until you get things up and running.

Good luck.
 

PhateX1337

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It is a LCD monitor that hes using, a Samsung 910T in fact. As far as I know it automatically searches the cable to see if it is plugged in as analog or digital and then uses the proper mode based on that. He has been using analog though to try to get it up and running for sure. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe it does automatically search the cable..
 

Bozo Galora

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working on it 5 months!!!
good god

Its got to be one of the following:
Bad monitor, or not configured OSI
Incorrect, not seated or bad cable (LCD is DVI-D and AGP ATI card is DVI-I)
Bad settings on vid card
Incorrect bios settings for video
Poorly seated or insufficient voltage to vid card

To eliminate driver probs - have you tried booting into safe mode??

Anyway, heres what you do.
I find that an old PCI slot VGA (NOT AGP) vid card as an invaluable troubleshooting device.
Buy one on ebay for $10 or go here:
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=PCI-MX440SE-64MTV&cat=VCD
http://www.compusa.com/products/product...en=froogle&cm_cat=&cm_pla=&cm_ite=feed

Plug it in to LCD with a 15 pin d-sub cable (no DVI) both ends and set bios to VGA first if there is an option for that and boot. Take out the ATI, of course.

I'd bet it works.
 

wpshooter

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Originally posted by: PhateX1337
It is a LCD monitor that hes using, a Samsung 910T in fact. As far as I know it automatically searches the cable to see if it is plugged in as analog or digital and then uses the proper mode based on that. He has been using analog though to try to get it up and running for sure. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe it does automatically search the cable..

Is this a digital plus analog model LCD ? If it is then attach ONLY the analog cable from your video card to the LCD.

Also, if this model works the same as mine (SyncMaster 191T) then you have to initially make a setting of the video MODE on the monitor/LCD hardware panel. If this is the case, the instructions for doing so, should have come with the LCD.

 

Bozo Galora

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DVI Connectors

A DVI connection can be one of three types - DVI-I, DVI-D or DVI-A.
DVI-I:
DVI-I contains both the digital and analog connections, (DVI-D + DVI-A) , it's essentially a combination of DVI-D and DVI-A cables within one cable. The I is for Integrated meaning a combination of both signals D and A.
DVI-D:
DVI-D (like DFP or P&D-D (EVC)) is a digital only connection. If both devices being connected support a Digital DVI connection (DVI-I or DVI-D compatible) and are compatible in resolutions, refresh rates and sync, using a DVI-D cable will ensure that you are using a digital connection rather than an analog connection, without playing around with settings to assure this.

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While I have never had a prob in this regard, I vaguely recall that some LCD's have a physical analogue/digital switch or setting in OSI, as do some vid card control panel settings

also note that the Samsung is DVD-D (Digital only) and not DVI-I, PLUS an analogue 15 pin d-sub
http://www.monitoroutlet.com/476531.html




 

wpshooter

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Originally posted by: Bozo Galora
DVI Connectors

A DVI connection can be one of three types - DVI-I, DVI-D or DVI-A.
DVI-I:
DVI-I contains both the digital and analog connections, (DVI-D + DVI-A) , it's essentially a combination of DVI-D and DVI-A cables within one cable. The I is for Integrated meaning a combination of both signals D and A.
DVI-D:
DVI-D (like DFP or P&D-D (EVC)) is a digital only connection. If both devices being connected support a Digital DVI connection (DVI-I or DVI-D compatible) and are compatible in resolutions, refresh rates and sync, using a DVI-D cable will ensure that you are using a digital connection rather than an analog connection, without playing around with settings to assure this.

My Samsung LCD has two physical cablings, it is my understanding that one is digital and the other is analog. If theirs is a dual mode monitor, the instructions should tell how to set the mode on the front control panels.

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also note that the Samsung is DVD-D (Digital only) and not DVI-I, PLUS an analogue 15 pin d-sub
http://www.monitoroutlet.com/476531.html

While I have never had a prob in this regard, I vaguely recall that some LCD's have a physical analogue/digital switch or setting in OSI, as do some vid card control panel settings

 

Zepper

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Have you read the AT FAQ - this topic is covered extensively there.

Boilerplate-01:
. Common causes of failure to boot (no video, no beeps) assuming PSU isn't totally dead:
1- RAM, CPU and/or AGP video card not seated properly, a bent pin or corrosion.
2- Drive data cable on upside down or only on half the pins or shifted a pin or two (usually Floppy or Zip drives).
3- CMOS needs to be cleared (AC power must usually be disconnected or . attempts to clear CMOS may fail) Unless your mobo does not use a power-off CMOS clear - check your mobo manual for specific info.
4- On some new mobos there is a CPU protection feature (esp. on Asus/Asrock Athlon/Socket A mobos) that will not allow the system to start if there is no fan (or a fan without a working speed sensor wire) connected to the fan power connector on the mobo (specifically marked "CPU Fan"). If you tried to start your machine without a fan properly connected, you have to attach a proper and working fan and clear the CMOS before it will boot.

.bh.
 

mechBgon

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Also, what power supply is (trying to) run the show there? What brand & model, not just the wattage rating.