computer programmers to lose overtime pay! <20 years ago!!!>

[Red Squirrel]

Was there even internet in 1991? I thought it came out in like 1995 or something.

 

[brianmanahan]

How the h**l did you even find an article this old on the NYT site and not know it?

i didnt there there was going to be ancient stuff on the internet!

 

[alkemyst]

Programmers have long been exept from OT. That's why a lot of corps were so quick to give that title out along with a salary raise.

 

[rockyct]

i didnt there there was going to be ancient stuff on the internet!

Why the fuck did you censor hell?

 

[brianmanahan]

Why the f**k did you censor h**l?

i censor (and report) all swares

consider yourself reported

 

[dawp]

oh i

wait the internet wasn't around then!

i call shens

The internet was around at that time. It may not have been called 'the internet' but it was there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET

 

[rockyct]

i censor (and report) all swares

consider yourself reported

Well fuck me...

edit: I just fucking reported this post

edit: Looking for an infraction for abusing the Report Post function and wasting our time?
admin allisolm

 

[0roo0roo]

I don't think that is close to being correct. Most software companies are hiring like crazy, and keep stealing candidates from each other. We have a ton of openings for all sorts of positions.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/06/e...-change-their-mind-its-just-so-darn-hard.html

they are fighting over the same couple people.

 

[dawp]

i censor (and report) all swares

consider yourself reported

you know they really don't care about cursing in a thread in OT as long as the title is clean. you're just annoying the mods if you really are reporting cussing in OT and wasting your time.


and it's swear, shit fer brains.

 

[BoomerD]

you know they really don't care about cursing in a thread in OT as long as the title is clean. you're just annoying the mods if you really are reporting cussing in OT and wasting your time.


and it's swear, shit fer brains.

We can only hope that he pisses the mods off enough that they take away his computer...Just banning him won't be enough...he comes to "that site that cannot be named" and pesters everyone there...

 

[rockyct]

you know they really don't care about cursing in a thread in OT as long as the title is clean. you're just annoying the mods if you really are reporting cussing in OT and wasting your time.


and it's swear, shit fer brains.

Apparently they do get annoyed at reporting your own posts though

 

[OutHouse]

I know the article is old, But you can fix it...Unionize. Salary is BS anyway, everyone should be hourly

yip and on nights like tonight were two of us have to VPN in to check the critical production servers time change.....

 

[OutHouse]

i censor (and report) all swares

consider yourself reported

lol what the fuck? if it bothers you so much why in the hell have you been posting since 2006?

 

[Mike Gayner]

What an ass.

 

[OutHouse]

Was there even internet in 1991? I thought it came out in like 1995 or something.

yea it was around the only people using it was MIT nerds calling Stanford nerds for a game of chess.

 

[DrPizza]

Programmers have long been exept from OT. That's why a lot of corps were so quick to give that title out along with a salary raise.

The regulations say that the job title doesn't matter. It's the principle job duties that matter. If someone only spends about 10&#37; of their times doing duties that fall under this regulation, and 90% of the time doing other things, then calling them a programmer does NOT exempt them from overtime.

 

[alkemyst]

The regulations say that the job title doesn't matter. It's the principle job duties that matter. If someone only spends about 10% of their times doing duties that fall under this regulation, and 90% of the time doing other things, then calling them a programmer does NOT exempt them from overtime.

True but good luck proving that.

 

[Wyndru]

im in the financial sector and every bank/insurance co within 100 miles of me has like 5 open positions for developers

Wow, definitely not the norm where I worked (it was a small division of sunlife financial). We had devs, but they were all temporary. Once the product or module was implemented they left.

It's too expensive to have a staff of experienced high paid devs when every kid in high school is programming these days. Most places I've worked at realize this and hire young college grads at $10-15/hour on a temp contract.

The problem with this is support. Once they leave you need someone who knows the code and can fix the bugs. Also, the code ends up sloppy since so many programmers are in the mix. All in all it worked though, and probably saved the company a ton of money overall.