computer is getting old ....upgrading and need advice

etrin

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I am about ready to order an Intel Core i7-5820K and a shiny new X99 something mb, DDR4 memory and all the fixings.
Uses are gaming and typical desktop work nothing like video editing or anything like that.
Looking for a 4.2 to 4.4 oc with water.

Well now along comes skylake.
Is there any reason to consider this ?


I have always used sound blaster cards, mainly for positional audio in games.
A friend said games no longer support positional since all they want is LOUD.
Is this true?
Are any of the X99 boards with sound blaster onboard worth considering or just keep using my sb card?

thanks for any and all info, directions and flames
 

NTMBK

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For gaming and desktop work, Skylake will be superior. A 6700k would be a better choice.

You could always just reuse your sound card from your old PC, sound hasn't improved much in the last 10 years.
 

lenjack

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Mine is 5 years old, is blazing fast, and I see no reason to update. I'm not an intensive gamer, I admit, and I used to update every 3 years. My rig does everything I need it to do.
 

myocardia

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Are any of the X99 boards with sound blaster onboard worth considering or just keep using my sb card?

Unless your card is pretty new, you won't be able to "take it with you". PCI slots have gone the way of the dodo and/or ISA slots.
 

superstition

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I am about ready to order an Intel Core i7-5820K and a shiny new X99 something mb, DDR4 memory and all the fixings.
Uses are gaming and typical desktop work nothing like video editing or anything like that.
Looking for a 4.2 to 4.4 oc with water.

Well now along comes skylake.
Is there any reason to consider this ?


I have always used sound blaster cards, mainly for positional audio in games.
A friend said games no longer support positional since all they want is LOUD.
Is this true?
Are any of the X99 boards with sound blaster onboard worth considering or just keep using my sb card?

thanks for any and all info, directions and flames
Broadwell 5675C.

Offers gaming performance that is good thanks to the EDRAM, can be overclocked, and has a lower price than an i7.

DDR4 offers nothing unless you're using integrated graphics.

For your described workload a six core chip is not necessary.

I would wait on Skylake until Intel releases one with EDRAM.
 

superstition

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Note also that many Broadwell reviews are problematic:

1) Some didn't bother to review games and that's when the EDRAM shines.

2) Overclocking in most articles failed to take into account the fact that the EDRAM needs to be clocked separately. If you get a board that lets you control the EDRAM clock you won't have such low overclocks like most reviewers had because they ignored this. One review found that the optimal clock for the EDRAM is 2000, not higher.

3) Overclocking really isn't necessary anyway to get good gaming performance from this chip as long as you have a good GPU.
 

DrMrLordX

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I haven't kept up with positional audio, but apparently it's going to be a big deal for VR stuff. Something to keep in mind. You will want a newer card since, as others have observed, PCI slots are a thing of the past. Where you should go from here is . . . uncertain to me, but you can always go to the peripherals forum and ask there.

Focusing on your CPU, you will be fine with either a Skylake 6700k or Haswell-E 5820k. Broadwell-C (i5-5675C, i7-5775C) processors are also good, though board support for them ranges from "okay" to "absolutely awful". Buyer beware in that department.
 

MongGrel

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Unless your card is pretty new, you won't be able to "take it with you". PCI slots have gone the way of the dodo and/or ISA slots.

There are ways around that, if you really want to. Even my old ASUS P6T7 has all PCI-e slots, I went through the trouble of rigging up a old Auzentech X-FI 7.1 Prelude card that still works well with a PCI to PCI-e adapter.

Just because I like the sound card.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0024CV3SA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00

But pushing some things these days might be more trouble than it is worth.

I would imagine most X99 boards these days with SB onboard are pretty much the same or better than many older SB cards.
 
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6700K or 5820k are both good choices. I would stay away from Broadwell. The chips are in short supply, and motherboard support can be spotty, as can overclocking. Sometimes the simple, obvious choice is in fact the best one. Personally, I think if you are willing to overclock, 5820k is the most future proof, although 6700k guarantees you good clockspeed at stock. I dont know where you are buying from, and what the current price is on 6700k, but if it is still selling above list, for sure go with 5820k or even 4790k.
 

Shmee

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Certain skylake boards allow non K OCing, if you are into OCing, that may be the way to go.
 
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I am about ready to order an Intel Core i7-5820K and a shiny new X99 something mb, DDR4 memory and all the fixings.
Uses are gaming and typical desktop work nothing like video editing or anything like that.
Looking for a 4.2 to 4.4 oc with water.

Well now along comes skylake.
Is there any reason to consider this ?


I have always used sound blaster cards, mainly for positional audio in games.
A friend said games no longer support positional since all they want is LOUD.
Is this true?
Are any of the X99 boards with sound blaster onboard worth considering or just keep using my sb card?

thanks for any and all info, directions and flames

If you are buying for pure gaming and don't want to futz around with overclocking too much, then there is only one option: the 6700K + Z170 board.

If you are willing to invest in some nice cooling and don't mind the additional heat output, then 5820K + X99 is the way to go since you get two extra cores and generally the 5820K is a solid overclocker.