Component cables for PS2?

SteveGrabowski

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Anyone use a PS2 on a modern TV? I'm not interested in using PCSX2 because every game I have actually played through in its entirety has texture issues and/or slowdown with sound glitches, so I want to play on original hardware. And I'm not going to buy an old school TV because I hate how much space they take up for anything with even a 19 inch screen. Has anyone here used generic PS2/PS3 component cables with good results, and if so, which cable did you use? I'd like to avoid the original Sony PS3 component cables since those run $70 used on amazon. I have heard the Monster cables for PS3/PS2 component are good but those run $45 used. Has anyone had good results with cables that are sub $20?
 

Oyeve

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Dunno about PS2 on modern TVs but I play my Atari 2600 (1977) on my 4K TV. :)
 

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Have you considered getting a used PS3 with PS2 backwards compatibility with the generic hdmi output on the back of the machine? Probably cheaper/better than trying to make the component route work at this point.
 

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Wow, I guess I bought a set at the right time. I got the official Sony PS3 set a few months ago for $19.95. I had been using a set from Walmart, but I unfortunately cut one of the cables when something fell on it. The Walmart cables were not the best (the Sony cables are clearly better, with less noise, which I believe is because the cables I got at Walmart were not grounded properly).

In terms of connecting to modern TV's you may need to look at investing in a scaler/converter device like a XRGB-Mini or OSSC (if you can manage to wait on the waiting list for 6-9 months). I believe the XRGB-Mini is out of production this year and it is unknown if a replacement will follow. I have a XRGB-Mini, and RGB modded SNES and N64. I also have a PS2 RGB SCART cable now as well, which is what I tend to use with the XRGB-Mini.
 

Fallen Kell

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Have you considered getting a used PS3 with PS2 backwards compatibility with the generic hdmi output on the back of the machine? Probably cheaper/better than trying to make the component route work at this point.
While probably true, you do have to remember that some people have modded their PS2 (there is a softmod out there, and combined with a hard drive, you can store all your games and no longer need to use the game disks). I don't think that works with the PS3.
 

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Yes, I've played with component on current tv's and it is okay. They are cheap, and you can get multi-in ones that can hook up other consoles to it as well. You just need a TV that actually has component in. That's never been a problem with the TV's I get...but if you are going uber cheap you probably won't get them.

I also have an HDMI adapter, but I don't recommend it as for some reason it makes the screen blurry.

That being said, PCSX2 is the way to go. I'm not sure what games or issues you are having, but that's all I use anymore and haven't had a bit of problems. And, note that my PS2 is modded and has an HD, but it just looks like crap on a 75" tv no matter how you do it. Emulation all the way.
 

Ichinisan

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There have been multiple "official" cables for PS3. I have some official PS2 and PS3 cables. I always thought they'd be cheap and plentiful, ignoring them many times at thrift stores and such. I found the PS2 cables generally worked for 1080p on PS3, but I think I did run into a signal quality issue one time.

You can try third party / unlicensed cables anyway. I'm sure a lot of them would be fine. Does Monoprice still sell them?

If you want to go all out, check HD RetroVision. They recently started selling PS3 cables and everything they do is top quality.

https://shop.hdretrovision.com/coll...3-ypbpr-component-cable?variant=3769542246440
 

Ichinisan

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...also component still looks like ass on most TVs when the TV's built-in image processor handles resizing 240p content to the panel's native resolution. Open Source Scan Converter (OSSC) works wonders.
 

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Have you considered getting a used PS3 with PS2 backwards compatibility with the generic hdmi output on the back of the machine? Probably cheaper/better than trying to make the component route work at this point.

I don't trust the BC PS3's. It was only on the launch models and those have really bad failure rates and consume a ton of power. Plus they're pretty expensive now. I already have a late model PS3 fat from late 2008 (CECHQ01) after they did the first node shrink from 90 nm to 65 nm lithography on the Cell and the RSX which I'm pretty happy with. But it doesn't have the Emotion Engine built in like the CECHA01 and CECHB01 models.
 

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...also component still looks like ass on most TVs when the TV's built-in image processor handles resizing 240p content to the panel's native resolution. Open Source Scan Converter (OSSC) works wonders.

PS3 outputs 480i doesn't it? Isn't it PS1 that renders 240p?
 

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That being said, PCSX2 is the way to go. I'm not sure what games or issues you are having, but that's all I use anymore and haven't had a bit of problems. And, note that my PS2 is modded and has an HD, but it just looks like crap on a 75" tv no matter how you do it. Emulation all the way.

PCSX2 always feels awesome the first five minutes when I see everything rendered at much higher resolution, but when I have played full games on it I found the experience kind of lacking. For instance, when I played God of War 1 on it treasure chests would randomly lose their textures after I had been playing say for half an hour, and then it would happen all the time. When I played through Drakengard 1 I would get slowdown that would screw up the audio. Plus I had to do a lot of screwing around with the graphics settings or I'd get five or six vertical lines being rendered. I think I had to run that one 480p to eliminate those lines, but I forget exactly. Persona 4 is just supposed to be a mess on PCSX2, and one of the reasons I bought a real PS2 was to play a modded copy of Persona 4 with English text but the Japanese voices, as it's one of my favorite RPGs ever made.

I have a pretty good cpu and gpu (Xeon E3-1231v3 and GTX 970) and have 16GB of RAM so I'm not trying to emulate on a potato. I haven't found the gain in resolution to be worth the bugs PCSX2 introduces. Plus I don't want to spend time tracking down optimum settings for each game I want to play, especially considering there a ton of old PS2 games I really want to dive into after being a strictly PC gamer that generation. Stuff like Katamari, Onimusha, SSX3, the Shin Megami Tensei games, Persona 4 with Japanese voices, Shinobi, Drakengard 2, the old GTA games in their original form with the trails and heat effects that got edited out of PC/XBox versions, and many more.
 

Ichinisan

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Crap I meant to write PS2 outputs at 480i.
It's the generation when things really transitioned. Most are 480i, but I believe there are a few 240p PS2 games. Yeah, most PS1 titles are 240p. If I recall correctly, some of them switch modes on the fly and newer TVs have to redetect the signal when you enter the in-game menu or exit.
 

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I'm not really clear on this either, but supposedly PS4 supports PS2 @ 1080?

PS4 has a really limited set of PS2 ports you can buy off PSN. It's annoying that Sony forces developers to add trophy support to PS2 games, which is probably why we don't see that many.
 

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It's the generation when things really transitioned. Most are 480i, but I believe there are a few 240p PS2 games. Yeah, most PS1 titles are 240p. If I recall correctly, some of them switch modes on the fly and newer TVs have to redetect the signal when you enter the in-game menu or exit.

Wow that sucks if there are 240p PS2 games or games with 240p menus. I guess if I run across one of those I'll have to switch to the composite cables.
 

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Maybe back in stock? Just saw this on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/hdretrovision/status/997610821684428801?s=21

Some kind of discount coupon code.


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Yup. Back in stock today:
https://shop.hdretrovision.com/coll...3-ypbpr-component-cable?variant=3769542246440

Thanks, I might have to order these. Thankfully the only game on that list of 240p games I was considering was Ico, but maybe I'll get that on PS3 some time when it goes on sale cheap. Much better than paying $45 for used Monster cables or $70 for used official PS3 cables.
 

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While probably true, you do have to remember that some people have modded their PS2 (there is a softmod out there, and combined with a hard drive, you can store all your games and no longer need to use the game disks). I don't think that works with the PS3.
You can do it with a 60GB/20GB model PS3. Not sure if it requires the official PS2 Memory Card adapter, but I know people have done it.

PS3 outputs 480i doesn't it? Isn't it PS1 that renders 240p?
720p on component cables.
Huh?

PS3 outputs 240p, 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, and 1080p all over the same component cables as a PS2. It may upscale/line-double original PlayStation games but I know I’ve seen my Sony TV say “240p” while playing Ico with official Sony PS2/3 component cables on a launch unit 60GB PS3. Yes, it also supports 1080p over component, though FUD about Blu-Ray’s Image Constraint Token convinced most people that it didn’t even support HD over component.

Crap I meant to write PS2 outputs at 480i.
The PS2 outputs at 240p, 480i, 480p, and 1080i. Heck, there might even be a 720p game or two. Of course, it can’t do that with the included composite cable or even with S-Video cables but the component cables were in stores everywhere from early in the PS2’s life straight through the end of the PS3’s life. The component cables double as RGsB (RGB, sync on green) cables for Japan but the RGB format duplicates the luminance across all three channels and doesn’t have the bandwidth to spare for proper HD. Component dedicates one channel for luminance, derives two color channels from that by only transmitting offset values, and then mathematically infers the third channel freeing even more bandwidth for HD.

Anyone who says RGB is superior to component is kidding themselves. Even for sub-HD RGB-sourced signals, RGB can be passively converted to component which makes the image less susceptible to interference and noise with no more quality loss than if the conversion were a pass-through device (if it’s properly made, of course). You’ll hear a lot of people telling you to stick with RGB if you get a scaler or scan converter but do not listen to them unless you live in a region where RGB might be useful without the scaled (it isn’t in North America except for a select few with specialty RGB PVM monitors and the like).

With HD Retrovision your cables will potentially be useful even without the scan converter/scaler. Though TV compatibility for some old consoles isn’t great for 240p over component, you can actually go get a component TV from the store or thrift store today if you needed it. For RGB SCART or JP21 there is near ZERO chance of that.

I dunno, but the point I meant to convey is that PS2 and PS3 both wire the component multi-out the same way; so a PS3 component cable should work fine with a PS2 system.
Initially Sony told users to use PS2 component cables if their HDTV did not have HDMI but they soon rebranded the exact same cables as PS3 component cables. A year or so later they changed the design of the cables. They eventually changed them again (fancy metallic RCA jacks and such). That was around when I noticed one of the officially licensed 3rd party component cable makers dropped their own branding so they appeared to be 1st party with official Sony holograms (they still weren’t technically 1st party).