Complete System Failure, Please Help

toronado97

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So I reformatted my computer a couple of weeks ago and finally got around to getting WoW working again. Played some tonight, noticed my FPS was literally about 25% of where it was before I formatted. We're talking 15 FPS instead of 60+ in crowded areas. So I start messing with settings, checking to make sure drivers are up to date etc. I download some Windows fix having to do with power savings on dual core CPUs and do a reboot. Upon reboot Windows tells me that there's an error in C:\windows\can't remember but it said the file was corrupted. Wonderful, I already know that means I'm looking at another reformat but I keep trying to get into Windows to try and back a few things up. Finally manage to get into Windows in safe mode and move some things around, and I get some type of memory allocation error. Reboots me. Then I get a blue screen trying to log in again. Manual reboot. Random reboots keep occuring while trying to load into windows. Finally get in, finish moving things around, do a system restore just to see if that fixes it. Boots up fine, get into windows, memory allocation error.

I give up and reformat C: in prep for a windows install. Goes fine, then I start installing the files needed to begin installation, and literally every other file it tells me that it can't copy it, and hit enter to retry or f3 to skip. I hit enter, it takes it, moves on and has the same problem. Sometimes I have to try 3 or 4 times on these files. I realize this seems very bad but whatever, I finally get into the Windows install itself, and about 2/3 of the way through it blue screens on me saying Bad_Pool_Caller. I don't know what that means.

Basically, is my computer fried? I've been running an OC on this CPU for over a year, so I guess it's entirely possible it's had it. I reset all bios settings to factory defaults even and things are still messed up. I did try a Bios flash the day before these issues cropped up, but I'm not sure they're related. I don't really know what memory allocation and bad pool caller are referencing. Obviously memory but I don't know if its a memory stick problem or more likely to be CPU/Mobo. I do know when I checked PC health my idle temp was 66 degrees which is way too effing hot, but I've never had shutdown problems related to temp ever since I've had this rig. This all came out of the blue pretty much, so if anyone can help me out here I'd be extremely grateful. I'm pretty much broke atm so I'm not looking forward to someone telling me hardware is shot beyond repair.
 

RebateMonger

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That CPU shouldn't be idling at 66C. I suggest you fix that first. Remove the heatsink, re-install heatsink compound (a VERY thin layer), and re-install the heatsink, making sure that it's properly clamped and firmly attached. Verify that your CPU cooling fan working properly.

The standard things to check in cases like yours:
a) Run an extended memory test
b) Run the hard drive maker's disk diagnostics program
 

toronado97

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Well the computer is completely unusable right now. I cant get a system installed to save myself. Same with the memory test, how do I go about doing these things with no system. :(
 

AsusGuy

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I am assuming the system will POST am I correct? All you need is a memtest disk or a Hirens disk and you can run memtest and MHDD. If not do you have another motherboard to test RAM in?
 

toronado97

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I'm going to try installing on my second hard drive as soon as I find a full copy of Windows to verify with. Stupid Windows XP upgrade only. :(

Edit: Also thoroughly blew out my heatsink/fan and have got the idle temps down to 50ish which I know is still too high, but much better than before. I figured out that one of the push pins is broken, its about halfway down and I can't get it to come out or go in further, so a new CPU fan is on the short list of things to buy asap. Most inane mounting system I've ever seen for a fan.
 

RebateMonger

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When the pushpins don't hold down properly, you may get a quick shutdown of the whole PC (maybe won't even get through POST). As you get better contact, but not complete contact, you'll get high idle CPU temperatures.

You can tell if it's an overheating problem because, once it fails, you'll find that if you IMMEDIATELY re-start, it'll shut down much faster than if you had started with a cold CPU.
 

Modelworks

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I would back everything down to the default settings so you can rule out any problems that might be coming from that end of things.
If you can't get it to behave stable with all default settings, no OC, to the point of passing memtest, then there is no sense in trying to do so with it OC.
 

AsusGuy

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All you need with an XP upgrade disk is an old copy of Windows like a 98 or ME disk. Then start a clean install with the XP upgrade disk and insert the old CD when it asks for an older OS cd to verify.
 

toronado97

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Yeah Asus, I just don't have any of that stuff here. I moved a few months ago and a lot of that stuff got left behind.

@Modelworks: Everything is back to factory defaults, thought I mentioned that somewhere. Still doing it. I should have a full version of Windows available tomorrow so I can try the other hard drive.
 

toronado97

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Alright I got a new copy of Windows XP Professional and installed it on the new HD. I now have a computer again. It still feels...off...somehow if that makes any sense. I have the old drive completely disconnected now but things just don't seem as peppy as they ought to, or as peppy as they did before I first reformatted two weeks ago.

Also, I am unable to validate windows. Not sure what the deal is, it's not erroring on me, its just saying unable to validate, like it can't connect. I'm having the same problem with Limewire and RealPlayer all of a sudden. They worked fine three days ago, now suddenly I can't get them to connect. I've made exceptions in Windows firewall, and I even turned it OFF, and it makes no difference. AIM works, Firefox works, half my programs seem fine, and the other half don't have internet access. Girlfriends computer on the same network is just fine, and all router settings are as they are supposed to be. Any ideas about this?
 

toronado97

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All drivers installed with the freshest updates I can find. I'm not going to lie, it's pretty damn weird. Never had this happen before. The internet works, its like some of my programs are getting firewalled. I have triple checked everything though, the router isn't blocking me and Windows firewall shows that everything is in the clear.