Compilation: Should this person be allowed to own a gun?

HomerJS

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Starting a thread to answer the question, let's show the kind of people that should not be allowed to own a gun.

I want to start with my first two nominees.

The 80 year old white man who shot the young black teen because he knocked on the wrong door and then shot him again.

This GOP lawmaker refuses to lock up her guns despite having children in the house.

List your nominees and others can respond. We are not necessarily talking about what the current law allows. If not covered by law, should it be?
 

Greenman

Lifer
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Unfortunately, being "allowed" to own a gun is the exact opposite of how the constitution works. One of the federal governments jobs is to guarantee that no one try's to prevent gun ownership.
That said, I'm also in favor of no one with a double digit IQ owning firearms. It's just a bad mix.
 
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UNCjigga

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Still waiting for someone to define “well-regulated militia”.

In my ideal fairytale scenario, counties and municipalities would all have an official militia with a secured arsenal/armory. All citizens registered to vote would share volunteer duties at this armory “fort”, like jury duty, and spend a week on guard duty when their name comes up. Periodic proficiency testing would allow people to age out naturally. Felony convictions for any violent crime would disqualify you from duty and ownership.

All semi-automatic weapons and certain calibers in the county would be required to be stored at one of these secure locations, but private ownership would be maintained. There would be a limit on the number of small arms one could keep in their home and further limits on amount of ammunition outside the armory. These regulations could vary based on urban/rural location, population density, and local wildlife/threats. But there would be no interstate transport of guns and no reciprocity for carry permits with a setup like this.

Firearm use and safety would be required in high school (or equivalent training for a GED.) Federal officials would not be allowed within 1000 yards of an armory, and ownership records would be sealed.
 
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dphantom

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Still waiting for someone to define “well-regulated militia”.

In my ideal fairytale scenario, counties and municipalities would all have an official militia with a secured arsenal/armory. All citizens registered to vote would share volunteer duties at this armory “fort”, like jury duty, and spend a week on guard duty when their name comes up. Periodic proficiency testing would allow people to age out naturally. Felony convictions for any violent crime would disqualify you from duty and ownership.

All semi-automatic weapons and certain calibers in the county would be required to be stored at one of these secure locations, but private ownership would be maintained. There would be a limit on the number of small arms one could keep in their home and further limits on amount of ammunition outside the armory. These regulations could vary based on urban/rural location, population density, and local wildlife/threats. But there would be no interstate transport of guns and no reciprocity for carry permits with a setup like this.

Firearm use and safety would be required in high school (or equivalent training for a GED.) Federal officials would not be allowed within 1000 yards of an armory, and ownership records would be sealed.
It has been defined many times.
 

woolfe9998

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Ideally no one, other than military and police, and the latter only because we currently have too many guns in private hands so I don't think we can have an unarmed police force.

That said, anyone stupid, radical, a believer in conspiracy theories, prior record of violence, depressed or otherwise mentally ill.

And any member of the republican party, because practically all of them fit into one of the above. ;)
 
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balloonshark

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I've said this before and I'll say it again. If you act like a jerk in your vehicle you shouldn't be permitted to have firearms.

If you stop traffic, get out of your car and walk back towards another driver because they blew their horn at you or flipped you the bird you don't have the temperament to own a car let alone a firearm.

If you brake check someone or stop in the middle of a highway because you can't control your temperament you shouldn't have a firearm.

If you use your car as a weapon you shouldn't be permitted to own a firearm.

If you have waived your gun at someone because you're road raging you should lose your firearms.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
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I've said this before and I'll say it again. If you act like a jerk in your vehicle you shouldn't be permitted to have firearms.

If you stop traffic, get out of your car and walk back towards another driver because they blew their horn at you or flipped you the bird you don't have the temperament to own a car let alone a firearm.

If you brake check someone or stop in the middle of a highway because you can't control your temperament you shouldn't have a firearm.

If you use your car as a weapon you shouldn't be permitted to own a firearm.

If you have waived your gun at someone because you're road raging you should lose your firearms.
People with anger issues should be screened out.
 
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Greenman

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As I recall from high school civics a lifetime ago, the militia is every white male over 21.
Now I'm going to have to go see if that's changed.
 

Leeea

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I am being treated for hallucinations ...
I am legally allowed to purchase* a firearm of any legal type in all 50 states.


*you see, in order to be disqualified, a person needs to be court ordered into treatment. If a person realizes they have a problem, and simply seeks treatment on their own, no restrictions. No records either. The treatments are also very effective.


The weird thing is, I feel less crazy then the above mentioned people in this thread. They all look like they have serious untreated anxiety and paranoia complexes they are expressing in extremely unhealthy and dangerous ways.


ps: ban all firearms
 

Vic

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Unfortunately, being "allowed" to own a gun is the exact opposite of how the constitution works. One of the federal governments jobs is to guarantee that no one try's to prevent gun ownership.
That said, I'm also in favor of no one with a double digit IQ owning firearms. It's just a bad mix.
Nothing in the Constitution prevents the govt from regulating prudent gun safety. Nor would the 2a be a valid legal defense to any civil lawsuit derived from negligence.
These people showboating their irresponsibility with guns, particularly around young children, are just as much enemies of the 2a as any gun-grabbing liberal.
 

Greenman

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Nothing in the Constitution prevents the govt from regulating prudent gun safety. Nor would the 2a be a valid legal defense to any civil lawsuit derived from negligence.
These people showboating their irresponsibility with guns, particularly around young children, are just as much enemies of the 2a as any gun-grabbing liberal.
Which pretty much circles back around to the double digit IQ idea.
 
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HomerJS

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Nothing in the Constitution prevents the govt from regulating prudent gun safety. Nor would the 2a be a valid legal defense to any civil lawsuit derived from negligence.
These people showboating their irresponsibility with guns, particularly around young children, are just as much enemies of the 2a as any gun-grabbing liberal.
I'm in favor of banning gun advertising including political advertising. Since that wouldn't prevent ownership and we did it with tobacco it should pass Constitutional muster.

No more irresponsible ads bragging about their 2 year old owning a rifle or Christmas cards with 8 year olds posing with an AR-15.
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K1052

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I'm in favor of banning gun advertising including political advertising. Since that wouldn't prevent ownership and we did it with tobacco it should pass Constitutional muster.

No more irresponsible ads bragging about their 2 year old owning a rifle or Christmas cards with 8 year olds posing with an AR-15.
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Normality brought to you by the people who "don't practice identity politics".
 

Greenman

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I just discovered that I live in an open carry state. I've been wandering around for four and a half months and have yet to see anyone armed.
Maybe no one mentioned it was legal.
 
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Pohemi

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People with anger issues should be screened out.
For driving as well IMO (both the anger issues and the IQ down in double digits). So should age...for both driving and firearm ownership. Of course, that would be unconstitutional.

An issue is, though...unless people are in an anger management group...how can you screen for that? I can't think of a scientifically logical and objectively fair method to accomplish that.
 

pcgeek11

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Gun ownership should be predicated on:

Taking and passing a class on responsible ownership, safety and legal requirements.

A complete background check including medical verification of mental stability.