Comparing canon 50D and 450d(Rebel T1i)

[HGPhotos]

Does anyone know much about the new Rebel T1i? Is it comparable to the 50D or are they in different classes? What makes the difference if any? Is this considered a "professional" model?

 

[xchangx]

Originally posted by: HGPhotos
Does anyone know much about the new Rebel T1i? Is it comparable to the 50D or are they in different classes? What makes the difference if any? Is this considered a "professional" model?

Neither camera is considered a "professional camera"; the T1i is a consumer camera, while the 50D is a Prosumer camera. Canon's professional line is the 5D and 1D line.

Difference? 50D & T1i - build quality Rebel line is plastic, xxD is some kind of alloy. xxD has more features as well.

 

[angry hampster]

the xxD line is also considerably larger than the Rebels.

 

[Aharami]

look here for an indepth preview of the the T1i (500D). There are some IQ comparisons between the T1i and 50D
But the T1i shots were taken with a pre-production camera. Production images could be better, worse, or stay the same.

I've been eagerly waiting for reviews for the T1i. I want to know how it holds up against the XSi in terms of image quality. T1i's features are nicer than the XSi (high-res LCD, better grip, video, etc) but if the IQ is worse, I'll just pick up a XSi for a few hundred cheaper

 

[twistedlogic]

Originally posted by: Aharami
T1i's features are nicer than the XSi (high-res LCD, better grip, video, etc) but if the IQ is worse, I'll just pick up a XSi for a few hundred cheaper

What about HD video, 😛.

Originally posted by: HGPhotos
What makes the difference if any? Is this considered a "professional" model?

As mentioned earlier, build quality and features. Professional and prosumer DSLRs generally also have more buttons and two scroll wheels making it easier to change settings on-the-fly.

 

[randomlinh]

ergonomically, anything over the rebel line is a LOT better. But this is very subjective.

 

[extra]

Originally posted by: randomlinh
ergonomically, anything over the rebel line is a LOT better. But this is very subjective.

Yes it is. I prefer the ease of carrier around a smaller camera, and the image quality is the same. 🙂

 

[Maximus96]

i have the 450D, the T1i is the 500D by the way. i'm waiting to upgrade to the 50D replacement, hopefully this fall or winter. after playing with a 40D in the store, my XSi feels like a toy...

 

[angry hampster]

Originally posted by: Maximus96
i have the 450D, the T1i is the 500D by the way. i'm waiting to upgrade to the 50D replacement, hopefully this fall or winter. after playing with a 40D in the store, my XSi feels like a toy...

Try a 1-series. :laugh:

 

[Maximus96]

Originally posted by: angry hampster

Originally posted by: Maximus96
i have the 450D, the T1i is the 500D by the way. i'm waiting to upgrade to the 50D replacement, hopefully this fall or winter. after playing with a 40D in the store, my XSi feels like a toy...

Try a 1-series. :laugh:

i think my goal is to eventually own an 5D2, or it may be a 5D4 by the time i can afford one...upgrading to the 50D replacement is more realistic for me. then there is the debate of the new 60D vs used 5D for probably the same amount of cash...

 

[HGPhotos]

Yes, thank you, I realized that I put wrong D number.

 

[HGPhotos]

Is the 60D new for this year?, I haven't seen it yet. Is there a great price difference between the 50 and 60 D? I will have to check it out. Ultimately, I want a 21 MP Mark III, but like you said for now, I will be very happy with the 50D!!!!!

 

[996GT2]

Originally posted by: HGPhotos
Is the 60D new for this year?, I haven't seen it yet. Is there a great price difference between the 50 and 60 D? I will have to check it out. Ultimately, I want a 21 MP Mark III, but like you said for now, I will be very happy with the 50D!!!!!

Are you just starting out? A 1Ds Mark III won't get you any better pictures than even the entry level Rebel XS if you don't have the skills to use it (and the lenses to go with the body).

 

[HGPhotos]

Yes, haven't even really started yet. Just researching and learning and gathering as much info as possibly, to pursue what has always been a dream for me. I've never even had anything close to being a decent camera. Just point and shoots and an old 35mm rebelS which is worth about $10 dollars!!!lol I am DYING to learnand be aBLE to actually follow my dream on this!!!!

 

[xchangx]

I think you are getting a little ahead of yourself. You haven't even learned the ins and outs of DSLRs.

I'd get the T1i + a 50mm 1.8 + a 85 1.8 or a 2.8 off-brand zoom (Tamron, Sigma, etc.) and go from there. You need to learn how to use it before you try to start a business. There's a lot of money that can be wasted.

If you are serious in going full time pro, then you'll need at least 2 bodies (1D mk3 isn't cheap), multiple zooms/primes, strobe, flashes, bags, tripods/monopods, insurance, etc.

Plus, you need to figure out the market in your area and how you are going to market yourself. For example, there are way, way too many wedding photogs, beach portait photographers in my area. So I've decided to focus on sport action shots since there are not many (if any) photographers in the area that have a 300 2.8 or 400 2.8 lens.

 

[NaOH]

Originally posted by: xchangx
I think you are getting a little ahead of yourself. You haven't even learned the ins and outs of DSLRs.

I'd get the T1i + a 50mm 1.8 + a 85 1.8 or a 2.8 off-brand zoom (Tamron, Sigma, etc.) and go from there. You need to learn how to use it before you try to start a business. There's a lot of money that can be wasted.

If you are serious in going full time pro, then you'll need at least 2 bodies (1D mk3 isn't cheap), multiple zooms/primes, strobe, flashes, bags, tripods/monopods, insurance, etc.

Plus, you need to figure out the market in your area and how you are going to market yourself. For example, there are way, way too many wedding photogs, beach portait photographers in my area. So I've decided to focus on sport action shots since there are not many (if any) photographers in the area that have a 300 2.8 or 400 2.8 lens.

What he said.

I took a digital photography class at school and just had my G5 (full manual) and I had photos that rivaled or beat out the other students who went out and bought it dSLRs just for the class. The prof even asked me if I used an SLR at one point for some of the photos I took.

 

[magomago]

Agreed...I'd even say don't bother buying a new cam. Get an older used one. check out forums for photographers - better chances of finding a camera that was babyed. Even if you can't find one, people on these types of forums generally know how to treat their cameras. Even if its a work horse, its generally a work horse that is properly taken care of. XTis should be able to be had for cheap. I would even look at taking a Canon 40D over a 50D. Nikon D80s should be good to find as well, although the 'dumping' of cams occured a while back with the whole D90/D300 commotion. Pentax's soon release of the K-7 is probably going to also cause a dumping of many fine K20D and K10D cameras in the next 1-1.5 months.
I personally believe its better to start off with entry level used and then you can comfortably move into new (or used 😉 But I'd prefer new prosumer gear) prosumer gear down the line once you've decided that a) you have a handle on things and b) you want to dive in further.

edit:

I didn't mention oly or sony only because people are expecting an A700 successor in Fall...that is quite a ways away. I also don't know what Oly is or isn't doing with releases and when new models if any are planned for this year, will come out.

 

[bobdole369]

an old 35mm rebelS

In good condition that camera is worth considerably more than $10. It's a gem - a rather nice film SLR. I would use the crap out of that thing. I think everyone should learn to use film first, then they appreciate teh niceties that a digital camera offers.

 

[Munky]

Like others have said, it's the photographer who makes good pictures, not the camera. Get an inexpensive consumer model, even a used Canon or Nikon, and learn the techniques and how to use the camera's features. Once you learn how to use the camera and get great pictures, you may realize you don't even need anything more expensive.

 

[dman]

Do the Rebel Series still have limitations with focusing and fast lenses (ie F1.8 or lower)? My XT had issues but perhaps they've improved with the T1i?

 

[foghorn67]

Originally posted by: dman
Do the Rebel Series still have limitations with focusing and fast lenses (ie F1.8 or lower)? My XT had issues but perhaps they've improved with the T1i?

XT uses the AF system of the Elan 7. The 450D(XSi) and 500D(T1i) uses the 30D's AF system. Much, much improved.