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Tullphan

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I currently have a HD4850.
What's the comparable nVidia card to it as well as a comparable card to a 4870?
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4850 trades blows with the 9800GTX+/GTS250. The 4870 is about on a par with the GTX260, again one does better on some games, the other on others.
 
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a 4890 isn't enough of an increase over 4850 to justify the upgrade imo.

If any I'd be looking at the new 5800 series.
 
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dflynchimp said:
a 4890 isn't enough of an increase over 4850 to justify the upgrade imo.

If any i'd be looking at the new 5800 series.
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50-70% isn't enough for you? and the 58xx is A) unattainable and B) way outta the price range
 
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dflynchimp said:
for me personally it has to be at least twice as fast, but that's just my opinion.
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That varies from person to person: my threshold is just one third better, but the price has to be a real value. So no 58xx for me. I also tend to buy on the backside of the video curve. Just moved up to a 4870 four months ago, after I found an XFX for $120. I'll wait for the prices on the newer stuff to settle and decline before jumping again. Helps that I game at 16x10, of course.

If I had a 4850, I don't know that I would go to an Nvidia 260: not quite enough of a jump up, though I'd have to research it vs the games I play.
 
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Tullphan said:
I currently have a HD4850.
What's the comparable nVidia card to it as well as a comparable card to a 4870?
Thanks.
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To be honest maybe a 9800GT??

HD 4850 -> GTX 260/ HD 4870 -> GTX 275/ HD 4890.
 
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don't post if you don't know what you're talking about. 4850 is a few % slower than gts 250/9800gtx+ at lower AA levels and a few % faster than gts 250/9800gtx+ at higher AA levels. also, you must compare same amounts of ram; ie, gts 250 1gb is better than 4850 512mb and vice versa.
 
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Tullphan

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The reason i'm asking about comparable cards is that I presently have a 4850, but am getting ready to build a "Hackintosh" & from what i've read, the nVidia-based cards play nicer.
I'm not trying to start any "wars" about what next AMD card I should get, but a comparable nVidia to my 4850 (unless a better nVidia can be had that wouldn't be much more).
Thanks.
 
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Tullphan said:
The reason i'm asking about comparable cards is that I presently have a 4850, but am getting ready to build a "Hackintosh" & from what i've read, the nVidia-based cards play nicer.
I'm not trying to start any "wars" about what next AMD card I should get, but a comparable nVidia to my 4850 (unless a better nVidia can be had that wouldn't be much more).
Thanks.
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Well, if you're building a Hackintosh, you should look on Hackintosh websites for a list of compatible hardware. Last I checked, the 8 and 9 series work fine. Not sure about the 200 series, but the newest iMacs have 4850 in them, so there might be a way to get those working.
 
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MagickMan said:
Depends on the game, and how well each card OCs.
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okie dokie. find me a game that the 260 is even in OC distance from and i'll gladly yield. Stock performance isn't even worth comparing...

*and i don't own either card, i have no reason to defend either one either way, i'm just lookin at the numbers.
 
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dguy6789

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Hyperlite said:
50-70% isn't enough for you? and the 58xx is A) unattainable and B) way outta the price range
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The 4870 is 20-30% faster than the 4850. The 4890 is 5-10% faster than the 4870. Where do you get the idea that the 4890 is 50-70% faster than the 4850?
 
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There's some scenarios specially when Anti Aliasing is used on high resolutions were the HD 4870 is twice as fast because the HD 4850 would run out of VRAM. But an nVidia counterpart for the HD 4850 definitively the GTS 250, no contest.
 
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dguy6789

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There are 1GB 4850s(there are also 512MB 4870s), do we know which the OP has? In any case, any of the Nvidia cards recommended to the OP will perform nicely and work with OS X. I can't confirm since I don't use it, but I imagine Radeon cards work just fine with the Mac OS as well since tons of Apple computers have Radeons nowadays.
 
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Hyperlite said:
okie dokie. find me a game that the 260 is even in OC distance from and i'll gladly yield. Stock performance isn't even worth comparing...

*and i don't own either card, i have no reason to defend either one either way, i'm just lookin at the numbers.
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http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3656&p=10

You are right about stock performance, but this gtx 260 trades blows (It wins out in slightly more benchmarks) with the 4890.
 
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dguy6789

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It's not really fair to compare overclocked cards to non overclocked ones. Either overclock them both or run them both at stock. That highly overclocked GTX 260 may best a 4890 a little, but overclock the 4890 and it will beat it no problem. That GTX 260 is nearly maxed out and you won't take it much further if you can at all. Even a poorly overclocked 4890 should be able to win hands down. There's also the fact that cards that are very significantly overclocked have a diminished lifespan.
 
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tviceman said:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3656&p=10

You are right about stock performance, but this gtx 260 trades blows (It wins out in slightly more benchmarks) with the 4890.
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The 4890 is cheaper than that card and if you OC both of them, there's no question what card will be faster.

But yeah if you want a Nvidia card that one could be interesting, but then you could get a cheap gtx275 for not much more and if you OC that as well you should be better off.
 
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dguy6789 said:
There are 1GB 4850s(there are also 512MB 4870s), do we know which the OP has? In any case, any of the Nvidia cards recommended to the OP will perform nicely and work with OS X. I can't confirm since I don't use it, but I imagine Radeon cards work just fine with the Mac OS as well since tons of Apple computers have Radeons nowadays.
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yeah, I heard that apple bought a shitload of 4870's last month in fact.
 
Hyperlite

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tviceman said:
Look at what he wrote:

"find me a game that the 260 is even in OC distance from and i'll gladly yield"

And that is exactly what I did.
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fair enough. I think the point has been made though.

Anyway, important thing now is that the OP shouldn't need an nV card fo hackintosh compatibility, it seems.
 
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evolucion8 said:
There's some scenarios specially when Anti Aliasing is used on high resolutions were the HD 4870 is twice as fast because the HD 4850 would run out of VRAM. But an nVidia counterpart for the HD 4850 definitively the GTS 250, no contest.
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only if you're comparing a 1gb 4870 to 512mb 4850. It could go the other way with a 1gb 4850 vs a 512mb 4870.
 
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