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Compaq Presario 1700 cooling mod. Some questions too.

Jeff7

Lifer
1- I just recently bought this thing on the forums, and it gets kind of toasty - the fan rarely comes on, and when it does run, it only does so for maybe 20 seconds if even that. Is there a place I can find a steady source of 5V inside the laptop, or maybe some way of changing the threshold at which the fan kicks in? What about the hard drive power pins? Do laptop drives use 5V?

*solved* 2- What is the maximum operating temperature for a laptop hard drive? The drive seems to have no cooling at all - no fans or anything resembing a heatsink near it. I'm defragmenting it, and the SMART reports that it is at 156F. When it's just spinning, it runs at around 138F. How hot can it get before a) it becomes a fire hazard, or b) it begins to nuke itself to death?
Solved with a laptop cooling pad; now the HD is at a tolerable, no longer painful-to-touch 130F.

3- Also, the BIOS is almost completely devoid of ANY kind of tweak or adjustments. Is there like a jumper inside to enable an advanced mode?

*solved*4- The cooler used a thick slab of a thermal pad to close the gap between the CPU core and the heatsink plate. I removed the cooler to get access to a screw that had come loose in shipping or something, and had lodged itself in the cooling fan. But anyway, the thermal pad is history. Would some thick "frag tape" do the trick? Or how about this: a thin piece of copper, as a part of a sandwich - CPU -> ASIII -> copper plate -> ASIII -> Heatsink thingy. I imagine that couldn't be any worse than the thick yellow stuff that was there.
I went ahead with the copper plate thing; it does an exceptional job - better than what was there. The entire laptop acts as a heatsink now. The sheet of metal that both secures the CPU and its cooling stuff in place, as well as insulates the motherboard from the keyboard, now also acts as a heatsink. The negative effect of this: the entire laptop gets warm before the built-in fan comes on, since the heat is being dissipated away from the CPU more effectively.

*figured out*5. I bought a stick of this RAM. The laptop will not POST fully with it in. If it's the only stick, no POST at all. If it's the second stick, with the 128MB stick of Kingston RAM in that came in it when I bought it, the RAM count completes normally, however it reports an offset error; Windows BSOD's on bootup then. What gives?
Not solved; just figured out. Intel hates high density RAM.

*solved*6. The battery is funky. It reads normal, but when it reaches about 80%, it then goes almost right to zero, Windows starts to shut down. I did the battery calibration (run the battery dead, recharge it) that Comcraq recommends, but it does nothing. Now it turns out, the battery is in fact not dead. When the system shut down from a "dead battery", I plugged it in, turned it on, and pulled the plug. It booted to Windows; I restarted it then - and it booted to Windows again; I repeated this, same thing. So the battery is NOT dead - Windows just thinks it is. It's been on, in the BIOS screen, for about a half hour now, with the battery light flashing. But it's still running! Is my battery just suicidal, and so it wants to be dead?
Solved: Drained it completely, by using Memtest86, which ran for about an hour and a half on what Windows said was a "dead battery" - and then allowed it to recharge fully.

Oh, the CPU in this is an Intel 600MHz P3 Speedstep. The stinkin' thing downclocks to 500MHz on battery power, which is just a little bit too little to decode a 12Mbit/s MPEG2 file in realtime. It needs that extra 100MHz.🙁
 
Make sure the BIOS is up to date and you have the Compaq power management utilities installed. Laptop do get warm, sometimes hot. As long as it isn't locking up, you are okay. Come wintertime, you will appreciate it's warmth when you are using it on your lap. There are no advanced features in the BIOS. If you are hellbent on hardwiring the fan to something, I would suggest using a pin from the PCMCIA slot or a pin from the docking connector if the laptop has one. Make sure the heatsink is properly contacting the CPU. I had an IBM that the thermal pad got trashed, so I put thermal grease on the heatsink instead. Guess what, the unit came back for shutdown issues. The design of the heatsink counted on a thick thermal pad being present and so was not contacting the CPU.
 
Originally posted by: jschuk
Make sure the BIOS is up to date and you have the Compaq power management utilities installed. Laptop do get warm, sometimes hot. As long as it isn't locking up, you are okay. Come wintertime, you will appreciate it's warmth when you are using it on your lap. There are no advanced features in the BIOS. If you are hellbent on hardwiring the fan to something, I would suggest using a pin from the PCMCIA slot or a pin from the docking connector if the laptop has one. Make sure the heatsink is properly contacting the CPU. I had an IBM that the thermal pad got trashed, so I put thermal grease on the heatsink instead. Guess what, the unit came back for shutdown issues. The design of the heatsink counted on a thick thermal pad being present and so was not contacting the CPU.

I did update the BIOS to the latest one, if you can call it that - 4/26/01 is the date. It promises "Enhancements to system thermal solution." Well, it seems that it either already was up to date, or else my thermal enhancements did a good job - the CPU stays cool enough so that the fan is not triggered.

The laptop seems to be working just fine, though the hard drive also gets hot - about 150F max, as reported by the drive's SMART. The HD is pretty much by itself, but it has no vents either.

The thick thermal pad issue was solved by the square of copper I put in. Solved too well I think.🙂
 
I know this post is old, but maybe try a laptop cooling pad thing. I remember seeing a site that did reviews of a few different styles and it did manage to lower temperatures throughout the laptop, but i can't seem to find the link right now...
This type thing
 
Originally posted by: pX
I know this post is old, but maybe try a laptop cooling pad thing. I remember seeing a site that did reviews of a few different styles and it did manage to lower temperatures throughout the laptop, but i can't seem to find the link right now...
This type thing

Yeah, I went ahead and bought this. Now the hard drive peaks around 130F, instead of 160F. Doesn't seem like the most efficient design though - the fans suck air off of the bottom of the laptop, and shoot it out the back. I guess though if it was blowing up against the laptop, then warm air might come out the front - might not be the best thing for a person who's already in a warm setting.

I guess number 2, 5, and 6 are taken care of now. The hard drive is cooled a bit by that cooling pad. The RAM won't work because Intel doesn't like high density RAM. And the battery - I COMPLETELY drained it, not by waiting for Windows to say that it's dead, but by running memtest86 for awhile on it. Then, once it shut off from a dead battery, I let it sit a little bit before booting it again on the dead battery, to drain whatever I could from it. Then I plugged it in, took the battery out, booted to Windows, and then popped the battery back in and let it charge. It seems normal now.

I still would like to know where I can get a steady source of 5V. I think that the USB ports use 5V, but they're on the other side of the laptop, so that's a long way to run an extra wire inside a place that's already limited on available space.
A different BIOS, like a technician's BIOS or something like that would be nice too - I've heard that some laptops have a jumper or something like that which switches on the advanced settings in the BIOS.
 
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