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Compaq/HP/ATI ripping people off, X1000 Laptop

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mattv

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Apparenty Compaq/HP has been putting Mobile Radeon 9000's in their laptops and claiming they are using 9200's.

The Link below is to the x1000 users forum which has postings from a ATI PR Rep claiming that they allowed HP/Compaq to do this since the performance difference is negligable.

As an x1000 owner myself I found the information very interesting, I think you will as well.


Link

thanks,

Matt.
 
You can't see it without registering?

You used to be able to...

And no its not a registration ploy i promise, I found the information useful and I was hoping that the Anandtech community might have some useful comments on it.
 
Since the forum doesnt seem to let you view the thread without registering is just a little bit of the kind of stuff that ATi is claiming over there.. I think they are wrong in what they are saying.. Does anyone agree with me, (I know that the Anandtech article does), Does anyone know who provided the information for the 9200 mobile article on anandtech?

Quotes for Chris Hook ATI PR Manager:

"Here you go:

1) Are you validating the fact that the chip IS a 9000 and not a 9200 chip and that use of the 9200 brand name is just a marketing gimick.

A. What we're saying is that the user accepts that the 9200 and 9000 (HP) are equal when the accept a Centrino chipset, which makes them equal given its lack of AGP 8X support. If they're equal, what does it matter which brand you choose? If you wanted AGP 8X so badly, then why did you buy a Centrino notebook?

2) Is it not true that the 9000 and 9200 are in fact different core chips ( 250 vs 280 ).

A. There's no difference here - from the standpoint of the user they're identical.

3) Is it not true that the 9200's are normally clock higher, and that the X1000 is physically incapable of running at those speeds.

A. You could run the 9200 in a hundred different notebooks and get 100 different clock speeds. What's important here is that within the power and thermal confines of this notebook, the two chips deliver the same performance"

Along with:

"
Sure - it's a special version of MR9000 that matches MR9200, and delivers performance and features identical to the MR9200.

The only thing it doesn't have that the MR9200 has is AGP 8X, which isn't supported anyway by the Centrino CPU in the X1000 (it's AGP 4X). AGP 8X support in the GPU wouldn't affect their user experience whatsoever.

Since performance and features are identical, we allow HP to use the 9200 branding. After all, users are getting the complete MR9200 experience, and that's what they've paid for.

"


If I remember the new core is supposed to allow for higher clockspeeds is this right? So the 9000 would not be the same as the 9200 right?
 
If I remember the new core is supposed to allow for higher clockspeeds is this right? So the 9000 would not be the same as the 9200 right?
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The only difference is the 8X AGP support, They are functionally the same....especially in this application.
 
The two chips are the same. Only difference is one has agp8x support, so they're hardly "ripping people off."
 
the anandtech article claims that the 9200 comes standard with a higher clock speed and other reviews claim that the core update rv280 from 250 changes allowed it to hit the higher frequencies w/o disapating as much heat? is this correct?

Also if they are the same chips then why do other manufactorers of centrino laptops use the real 9200's?

thanks,
matt.
 
Originally posted by: mattv
the anandtech article claims that the 9200 comes standard with a higher clock speed and other reviews claim that the core update rv280 from 250 changes allowed it to hit the higher frequencies w/o disapating as much heat? is this correct?

Also if they are the same chips then why do other manufactorers of centrino laptops use the real 9200's?
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Thats only true for desktop r9200's, because they are fabbed on a smaller process. AFAIK, they are the exact same thing, functionality wise except for AGP 8X. And if I recall correctly, Centrino boards (855GM or whatever) only support AGP 4X.
 
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