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company prohibits "doing company business on motorcycle"

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zixxer

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My primary vehicle is a motorcycle - we were bought by a company that explicitly prohibits any company business on a motorcycle (i.e. if you need something from best buy, meetings, any company functions, any offsite training, etc etc)



opinions?
 
What a bunch of bullsh!t. I would be more than pissed off, but I don't know if you can do anything about it.
 
Originally posted by: zixxer
My primary vehicle is a motorcycle - we were bought by a company that explicitly prohibits any company business on a motorcycle (i.e. if you need something from best buy, meetings, any company functions, any offsite training, etc etc)



opinions?
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It's a safety issue.
 
I would think that if its your own personal vehicle, and you have your own insurance, then they would have no right to say if you can or cannot use it to get somewhere you need to be.
 
Originally posted by: FoBoT
it must be insurance related, somehow
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That's what I'm thinking too.

If he is doing a run for work, their insurance might be at risk. They may not be covered for "high risk" vehicles like motorcycles.
 
Originally posted by: ScottSwingleComputers
I would think that if its your own personal vehicle, and you have your own insurance, then they would have no right to say if you can or cannot use it to get somewhere you need to be.
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Get a trike
 
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: FoBoT
it must be insurance related, somehow
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That's what I'm thinking too.

If he is doing a run for work, their insurance might be at risk. They may not be covered for "high risk" vehicles like motorcycles.
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vi_edit is exactly correct. They are limiting their financial liability to you if you were injured in an auto accident on your motorcycle while "on the job".
 
Originally posted by: ebaycj
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: FoBoT
it must be insurance related, somehow
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That's what I'm thinking too.

If he is doing a run for work, their insurance might be at risk. They may not be covered for "high risk" vehicles like motorcycles.
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vi_edit is exactly correct. They are limiting their financial liability to you if you were injured in an auto accident on your motorcycle while "on the job".
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If a motorcycle is his ONLY vehicle, they'll be providing one for him to use for company purposes. Which they should do ANYWAY.
Their business = their risk

 
Originally posted by: dabuddha
As long as they provide you a vehicle to use for company business, I see no problem with this.
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I have to agree with this here. I'd raise hell if they want you to buy a car because of their policy. Tell them to get you one if they won't let you ride your motorcycle.
 
Originally posted by: ScottSwingleComputers
I would think that if its your own personal vehicle, and you have your own insurance, then they would have no right to say if you can or cannot use it to get somewhere you need to be.
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You clearly don't own a small business.

If an employee gets into an accident, even while driving his personal vehicle, while doing job related functions, the company can be held liable. Not only does this mean that other parties can sue the company, but the employee could too.

Imagine that zixxer goes down to Best Buy for some parts on his motorcycle for the company. Some trucker runs him over, he's going to spend the rest of his life in a wheelchair. The potential liability for the company is enormous. If the trucker doesn't have insurance, it's very likely that he'd turn around and sue the company, claiming that if he weren't required to run this errand for the company he wouldn't have been on his motorcycle and wouldn't have been in the accident. And then the trucker could also sue the company for repairs to his truck citing the same reasons.

I have a friend who owns a small business and insurance issues such as these keep him awake at night. It's sad how much of his company profits goes to pay insurance premiums to protect against stuff like this.

(Granted, the same scenario could play out in a car, but the potential for injury is less in a car than on a motorcycle, which I suspect is the underlying reason for the madate.)
 
Originally posted by: NogginBoink
You clearly don't own a small business.

If an employee gets into an accident, even while driving his personal vehicle, while doing job related functions, the company can be held liable. Not only does this mean that other parties can sue the company, but the employee could too.
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bingo. the employee is going to get worker's comp regardless of how much at fault he is. and if the employee is at fault, and on employer business, the employer can be liable if the employee injured anyone else (and they'll certainly get dragged into the lawsuit, even if they would ultimately be found not liable).
 
Originally posted by: NogginBoink
Originally posted by: ScottSwingleComputers
I would think that if its your own personal vehicle, and you have your own insurance, then they would have no right to say if you can or cannot use it to get somewhere you need to be.
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You clearly don't own a small business.

If an employee gets into an accident, even while driving his personal vehicle, while doing job related functions, the company can be held liable. Not only does this mean that other parties can sue the company, but the employee could too.

Imagine that zixxer goes down to Best Buy for some parts on his motorcycle for the company. Some trucker runs him over, he's going to spend the rest of his life in a wheelchair. The potential liability for the company is enormous. If the trucker doesn't have insurance, it's very likely that he'd turn around and sue the company, claiming that if he weren't required to run this errand for the company he wouldn't have been on his motorcycle and wouldn't have been in the accident. And then the trucker could also sue the company for repairs to his truck citing the same reasons.

I have a friend who owns a small business and insurance issues such as these keep him awake at night. It's sad how much of his company profits goes to pay insurance premiums to protect against stuff like this.

(Granted, the same scenario could play out in a car, but the potential for injury is less in a car than on a motorcycle, which I suspect is the underlying reason for the madate.)
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yeap pretty much what i was going to post.

I can not blame the company on this. you want to ride a motorcycle on your time fine. but not when you out on company business.
 
Originally posted by: hellokeith
Call OSHA or your state workforce commission. If you live in a right-to-work state, you may be out of luck.
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OSHA? If anything, they'll back the company on this, but more realistically this is out of their jurisdiction.
 
yep, if they want you on 4 wheels then they should provide you with a company car, or rather pool car. a car that you book out when you need to use it.
 
Private business = they have the right to make the rules while their employees are on the clock.

Don't like it? Then quit and start your own business.
 
It is insurance related and completely legal. Contrary to the common perception, when you drive from the office to Staples or Best Buy and back on company business, or out to meet clients, etc., you are doing so under the company's umbrella of liability and not your own.
 
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