Common Core assignment - was the Holocaust a hoax?

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Interim Superintendent Mohammad Z. Islam

I think we know why this assignment was created :sneaky:

 

[Brainonska511]

So they just threw the 'common core' label on it to further smear it? AFAIK, the common core doesn't set curriculum. It only provides guidelines and the local districts or states set the curriculum based on the guidelines. It's a good assignment for teaching critical thinking and how to evaluate sources, however, the subject might have been touchy for some people and people that have an agenda and want to blow it all out of context.

I can see why it was chosen though: take something that most of the students know is true to make the false source more obvious. But, the person who created the assignment could have used more tact and found another subject. Maybe they used the Holocaust because it tied in with other material they were learning about at the time.

 

[realibrad]

I think we know why this assignment was created :sneaky:

I was waiting for someone to hit on that. Both Mohammad and Islam in the same name.

 

[Moe Zart]

Nobody has an issue with denying or downplaying the genocide of the American natives or the aboriginals of Australia. Then again there aren't natives controlling Hollywood, the media, and congress.

 

[Newell Steamer]

Nobody has an issue with denying or downplaying the genocide of the American natives or the aboriginals of Australia. Then again there aren't natives controlling Hollywood, the media, and congress.

And the ethnics - you forgot that they control the ethnics as well.

 

[dank69]

Nobody has an issue with denying or downplaying the genocide of the American natives or the aboriginals of Australia.

Downplaying? I am not aware of anyone downplaying these genocides. Regardless, downplaying isn't the same thing as denying.

Then again there aren't natives controlling Hollywood, the media, and congress.

So Jews control everything?

 

[Orignal Earl]

I was waiting for someone to hit on that. Both Mohammad and Islam in the same name.

I was surprised the author of the article held off till the 6th paragraph to insert it.
The build up was good though
The placement of the ads, the big FAITH sidebar and then finally the buy my book, tune in to my radio and TV show and come see me and the author
For only $99.99

 

[OCGuy]

Maybe the OP is Iran's former president Immadinnerjacket? :biggrin:

Wouldn't Iran be a perfect place to move OP? Religious fundamentalism isn't just accepted, it is law. Women are second-class citizens. And according to the previous President, there are no gays there.

I will pay 75% of the airline ticket to Ankara, if we can pool the 25% and the bus ride into Iran.....

 

[Texashiker]

Wouldn't Iran be a perfect place to move OP? Religious fundamentalism isn't just accepted, it is law.

Women are second-class citizens. And according to the previous President, there are no gays there.

The no gays would make the move worth it.

On the other hand, women deserve equal rights. I can not support a nation that does not protect women and treat them as equals.

 

[Moe Zart]

I think we know why this assignment was created :sneaky:

A people bear no moral responsibility to mourn over the fact their oppressors were oppressed in a previous time.

 

[Orignal Earl]

The no gays would make the move worth it.

On the other hand, women deserve equal rights. I can not support a nation that does not protect women and treat them as equals.

No matter where you go, the gays are going to get you, and the women in Iran have more balls then you

 

[Squeetard]

When it comes to history, why should we blindly accept what we are told as absolute fact?

No. You are supposed to question everything and come up with a sound conclusion, not just what you want to hear.

 

[z1ggy]

The no gays would make the move worth it.

On the other hand, women deserve equal rights. I can not support a nation that does not protect women and treat them as equals.

Wait.. We've got to specific that bigotry, TH.

Let's make it clear you don't like gay MEN. You love gay women.

^Makes total sense, ammiright?

 

[thraashman]

The no gays would make the move worth it.

On the other hand, women deserve equal rights. I can not support a nation that does not protect women and treat them as equals.

Except where it comes to letting them make medical decisions about their own bodies as per every single thread on the subject you've ever taken part in.

 

[Texashiker]

Wait.. We've got to specific that bigotry, TH.

Let's make it clear you don't like gay MEN. You love gay women.

^Makes total sense, ammiright?

Yep, I loves me some muffins.

Except where it comes to letting them make medical decisions about their own bodies as per every single thread on the subject you've ever taken part in.

Yea, how dare we want to stop a slave owner from killing his property.

 

[cubby1223]

So what was the war crime? Who committed the crime? But things like this make me ponder the rest of WW2 war crimes. Was it the similar situation over in Europe? Maybe. Maybe not. If that was an American tactic, and Americans were over in Europe... I think it should be open for debate.

You're going to try and compare that to the Holocaust? Try to make the argument the Holocaust was an American war tactic?

Please say you're questioning other things, and not the holocaust in this way.

 

[berzerker60]

The victors write the history books.

No they don't. Historians write the history books. In very few countries do those historians have any particular incentive to pander to what 'the victors' want to hear, and in fact quite the opposite, historians advance in their careers by going against conventional wisdom (assuming they have convincing evidence).

When it comes to history, why should we blindly accept what we are told as absolute fact?

Absolutely not, which has nothing to do with questioning the Holocaust. You should question science, too, but that doesn't mean we need to have students spend time questioning gravity or a round Earth.

Nobody has an issue with denying or downplaying the genocide of the American natives or the aboriginals of Australia. Then again there aren't natives controlling Hollywood, the media, and congress.

Uhhh, yes many people absolutely do have an issue with that. Nice non-sequitur antisemitic smear at the end though.

 

[cubby1223]

My opinion, how does asking students to think in an abstract manner have no value?

Shouldn't we be able to ask "why" Japan attacked Pearl Harbor?

Shouldn't we be able to ask "why" Hitler invaded France, Poland and Russia?

When it comes to history, why should we blindly accept what we are told as absolute fact?

It's one thing to dive into why Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, in fact I remember going over that very topic in my history classes.

It's an entirely other level of crazy to open up the discussion of what facts support or not support whether Japan attacked Pearl Harbor or not... maybe it was U.S. planes painted to look like Japanese who bombed Pearl Harbor in F.D.R.'s plot to force the U.S. into war!

Big difference.

Let's also teach through a high school debate on if the Boston marathon bombing was in fact just actors playing out a practice crisis scenario.

 

[brandonb]

You're going to try and compare that to the Holocaust? Try to make the argument the Holocaust was an American war tactic?

Please say you're questioning other things, and not the holocaust in this way.

I mentioned nothing about the holocaust, and actually wanted to avoid comparing it to the holocaust (as I mentioned in my first sentence).

The point I'm trying to make here is that someone from Japan was tried for a war crime and hanged. All over what appeared to be the result of American action during the battle. So someone took a hanging over something they had no control over. That nobody throughout history seemed to ever question it. It was written into a history program as truth and from what I could tell, even pointed out that this admiral who took a hanging was portrayed as a brutal war criminal. Which may or may not be true, but it seemed Americans took at least a small part if not a large part in what happened and what they accused the Admiral of doing.

In war, I don't ever take anything at face value, and I question everything. As I believe everybody should.

In no way did I say the holocaust was caused entirely by Americans, or didn't happen at all. I wanted to avoid any direct comparison. I just wanted to point out that I believe it's ok that people look into the facts/history and do any independent research as they see fit and come to their own conclusion, and never really believe 100% what they are told by the media about anything (war related or not.)

 

[Texashiker]

No they don't. Historians write the history books.

So tell me, what Japanese and German historians helped write our history books on world war II?

 

[OCGuy]

Does anyone else think the OP is confused and believes he is posting on Stormfront?

 

[OCGuy]

So tell me, what Japanese and German historians helped write our history books on world war II?

I'll answer that if you answer why you couldn't just dribble down a leg and onto the mattress like you were supposed to?

 

[brandonb]

I'll answer that if you answer why you couldn't just dribble down a leg and onto the mattress like you were supposed to?

Will you stop?

 

[OCGuy]

Will you stop?

Who are you, Hitler or something?

 

[shira]

A VERY useful question for HS kids to research, to really exercise their critical thinking skills, would be "Is there a difference between a zygote and a person?" I think that - free from appeals to emotion, false comparisons, circular reasoning, and ideology - students could really learn something in doing this research for themselves.