Commercial aviation under threat from man-portable air defense systems

[shortylickens]

Didnt we lose a bunch of Stingers to our enemies back in the 80's?

How is this news?

 

[rommelrommel]

Didnt we lose a bunch of Stingers to our enemies back in the 80's?

How is this news?

Basically, it should be news in the inverse...

Bad guys have had a way to shoot down civilian planes for around 30 years but it still pretty much never happens even in total shit holes. Maybe said bad guys don't really want to shoot down civilian planes...

 

[shortylickens]

Uh, I'd just like to point out it depends on which numbers you use. According to the FBI there were 8,855 firearm homicides in 2012. I'm not sure of the reason for the discrepancy.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/uc...able_8_murder_victims_by_weapon_2008-2012.xls

I know the White House has an agenda. I sometimes wonder if the FBI has an agenda as well.

 

[Darwin333]

I'm much more concerned about the TSA than I am about terrorists.

Unlike the TSA at Ft Lauderdale Airport, no terrorist ever touched my junk.

Unlike the TSA in Maui, no terrorist ever confiscated my sun tan lotion.

Odds of dying in a terrorist attack, 1 in 20 million. I can deal with that...

Just don't care to deal with the TSA and their Security Theater.

Uno

This.

 

[Darwin333]

Unfortunately that entire stat sheet is a pile of horsesh1t. A 1 in 340 chance of dying by "Assault by firearm"?

Given that there are ~11,000 firearms homicides per year, and ~320,000,000 people in the US, it's many many many orders of magnitude lower than 1 in 340.

National "Saftey" Council = some dipsh1t in his bedroom who can't even use spell check, let alone work a calculator.

Ouch....

 

[CLite]

Uh, I'd just like to point out it depends on which numbers you use. According to the FBI there were 8,855 firearm homicides in 2012. I'm not sure of the reason for the discrepancy.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/uc...able_8_murder_victims_by_weapon_2008-2012.xls

Well a quick review of the link shows the UCR program is voluntary whereas the CDC program is based on death certificates which are required to have a cause of death reported. Total homicides, even neglecting guns, are substantially different between the two agencies. I imagine the number is somewhere in between the two, but realizing that the medical coroners have a far smaller agenda and bias when filing death certificates than law enforcement agencies do when reporting crime stats.

 

[HumblePie]

Uh, I'd just like to point out it depends on which numbers you use. According to the FBI there were 8,855 firearm homicides in 2012. I'm not sure of the reason for the discrepancy.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/uc...able_8_murder_victims_by_weapon_2008-2012.xls

Actually, I was remembering the FBI numbers which were in the thousands and not 10s. That prompted me to think the 11,000 that was thrown out was the one that included suicides for that year.