Comments to the naysayers of America

CichliSuite

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Before you write me off as a rightwing "redneck", know that I am an Indian American. Not Muslim, but of the persuasions of eastern thought (buddhism, hinduism)


Propaganda is occuring on both sides. While the media is replete with rabble-rousings and provocation for the American people, there are just as many who are spouting the usual Anti-American rhetoric seemingly in order to provide some sort of justification for the attack we endured.

Although a war will inevitably result in the deaths of innocents, the reality of war can't be put aside because of that.
America has indeed committed many atrocities - this is what ALL countries do. Why is America expected to hold some higher standard than everyone else? Is this not simply affirming the belief that America is indeed a "better" country than any other? Why must America be held responsible both for its action ("look at how American did this..") and its inaction ("Why didn't America help them when...").
It is a love/hate relationship - the world likes to breastbeat the justifications for their hatred of America, but conveniently keep quiet about their love of this place. The complacency and pampering that the American public enjoys evokes not only anger around the world, but jealousy as well. Take a trip somewhere, you'll see on a small level how the spit on us, but wear our clothes and drink our drinks. Its there, people, on even that small level.

Pardon my delivery, but so what if America dropped a bomb on the Japanese? The Japanese spent ten odd years torturing the Chinese, planting tumours and disease for scientific experimentation. The Chinese have all but destroyed the identity and sovereignty of Tibet through implantation of their own people and decimation of the native culturescape, and so on goes the atrocities of the world...

The value judgements only seem to occur on America's actions. On America's attitude. On America's.....

Why are we to be deemed as any different, and any less allowed to express anger and disgust at atrocities committed upon our land? We is our retaliation deemed unneccessary and excessive, while two planes inside our buildings, seen as an expression of frustration?
 

Geforcekj

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well said hoever I think the countries that are subjected un willingly to america's hemogeny would say that they do it in a self righteous manner. I think these states and peoples wish america would stop telling them how to live their lives, and to stop using them for its benifit.

Just my opinion..
 

Afronaut

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I have a question. Lots of posters say that there are "good" moslems. That islam is not a violent religion, and does not condone terrorism.
We know that moslems can declare a "Fatwa". Bin Laden and Arafat have promulgated and used terror, and killed innocent men, women, and children. If in fact their religion rejects such acts, when will a fatwa be declared against these vermin? Surely, their actions besmirch Islam to a far greater extent than did the novelist Salman Rushdie - who was rewarded with a death sentence in a fatwa.

They want every Jew dead... Do I care about these animals?
 

Viperbob

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Very good post ,You make quite a few excellent points. We are "Damned if we do and damned if we don't" (I believe it's even one of bin Laden gripes against us) The World cries for us to act, Then we get condemmed for intruding.

If you take this view you can weather/ignore the blows it's the basic ingnorance amongst the world of what we did or didn't do, The way they "edit" world events then they speak it amoungst themselfs and spread it like some greek fable, and finailly present it as a fact.

Thats what pisses me off

My view of the world since 9/11/01
#1 Every Americans first thought was to nuke them and let God sort them out(innocent& guilty). If the thought didn't occour to you then your a better man than I. But eventually yea your brain cools down and you realise it's a pretty stupid approach. And probobly the one the Terrorists expected of us, To unite the Arab world in a Jihad.
People start jumping on the board and start sqauking about what a bunch of ripe bastards we are how much suffering wev'e inflicted on the world, Ten they start spewing this totally inaccurate dribble These...these...European myth's (the only place there real is in there minds)
#2 All us Americans needed was to VENT to comfort each other not be warned or threatened, Some people banged that same drum in every thread
#3 We say going to coldly shrink the world on those S.O.B.'s hunt them down fine lets see what unfolds

Personally I pray that the men women and children of 9/11/01 are avenged America (not that we needed any more) now has it's Heros and Myrtars