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I routinely have to transport 6 people. I currently have a Yukon XL but flipping a seat to get to the 3rd row is a pain. Am considering a van, but am looking for other options. Any suggestions?
Originally posted by: nweaver
I don't know why folks avoid the minivan, it's one of the best designs out there. It hauls more people and more stuff comfortably then an SUV. Can you haul sheets of plywood in your SUV? How about a full size kitchen table (it was huge, and I got it on a whim at a yard sale, so I had to pull seats and readjuste on the fly...me and the 2 kids). I also get 24ish MPG out of it all the time.
If you aren't man enough to admit that the minivan is a good idea, they make pills for that now.
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: nweaver
I don't know why folks avoid the minivan, it's one of the best designs out there. It hauls more people and more stuff comfortably then an SUV. Can you haul sheets of plywood in your SUV? How about a full size kitchen table (it was huge, and I got it on a whim at a yard sale, so I had to pull seats and readjuste on the fly...me and the 2 kids). I also get 24ish MPG out of it all the time.
If you aren't man enough to admit that the minivan is a good idea, they make pills for that now.
IIRC, the OP is a physician & needs to bust snowdrifts in the wintertime occasionally.
I think a Snowcat and a minivan should do the job nicely
Actually I think the OP needs 2 vehicles, one for winter use like a 4X4 pickup and an AWD minivan
Originally posted by: nweaver
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: nweaver
I don't know why folks avoid the minivan, it's one of the best designs out there. It hauls more people and more stuff comfortably then an SUV. Can you haul sheets of plywood in your SUV? How about a full size kitchen table (it was huge, and I got it on a whim at a yard sale, so I had to pull seats and readjuste on the fly...me and the 2 kids). I also get 24ish MPG out of it all the time.
If you aren't man enough to admit that the minivan is a good idea, they make pills for that now.
IIRC, the OP is a physician & needs to bust snowdrifts in the wintertime occasionally.
I think a Snowcat and a minivan should do the job nicely
Actually I think the OP needs 2 vehicles, one for winter use like a 4X4 pickup and an AWD minivan
AWD maybe, but since most are front wheel drive, I think of AWD as an Oops fixer. 4WD/AWD won't compensate for driving like a retard (unfortunately)
If you can't get the job done with FWD, then you won't with AWD (imho). Of course, I learned to drive snow in a 1970 Plymouth, so I might be biased.
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: nweaver
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: nweaver
I don't know why folks avoid the minivan, it's one of the best designs out there. It hauls more people and more stuff comfortably then an SUV. Can you haul sheets of plywood in your SUV? How about a full size kitchen table (it was huge, and I got it on a whim at a yard sale, so I had to pull seats and readjuste on the fly...me and the 2 kids). I also get 24ish MPG out of it all the time.
If you aren't man enough to admit that the minivan is a good idea, they make pills for that now.
IIRC, the OP is a physician & needs to bust snowdrifts in the wintertime occasionally.
I think a Snowcat and a minivan should do the job nicely
Actually I think the OP needs 2 vehicles, one for winter use like a 4X4 pickup and an AWD minivan
AWD maybe, but since most are front wheel drive, I think of AWD as an Oops fixer. 4WD/AWD won't compensate for driving like a retard (unfortunately)
If you can't get the job done with FWD, then you won't with AWD (imho). Of course, I learned to drive snow in a 1970 Plymouth, so I might be biased.
Yep, I'm learned how to drive in snow in a RWD, have always been impressed with FWD in the snow & ice.
Originally posted by: nweaver
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: nweaver
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: nweaver
I don't know why folks avoid the minivan, it's one of the best designs out there. It hauls more people and more stuff comfortably then an SUV. Can you haul sheets of plywood in your SUV? How about a full size kitchen table (it was huge, and I got it on a whim at a yard sale, so I had to pull seats and readjuste on the fly...me and the 2 kids). I also get 24ish MPG out of it all the time.
If you aren't man enough to admit that the minivan is a good idea, they make pills for that now.
IIRC, the OP is a physician & needs to bust snowdrifts in the wintertime occasionally.
I think a Snowcat and a minivan should do the job nicely
Actually I think the OP needs 2 vehicles, one for winter use like a 4X4 pickup and an AWD minivan
AWD maybe, but since most are front wheel drive, I think of AWD as an Oops fixer. 4WD/AWD won't compensate for driving like a retard (unfortunately)
If you can't get the job done with FWD, then you won't with AWD (imho). Of course, I learned to drive snow in a 1970 Plymouth, so I might be biased.
Yep, I'm learned how to drive in snow in a RWD, have always been impressed with FWD in the snow & ice.
I think all new drivers should be required to spend the first winter in an old brick with RWD...I think it would make better winter drivers out of them all.
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: nweaver
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: nweaver
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: nweaver
I don't know why folks avoid the minivan, it's one of the best designs out there. It hauls more people and more stuff comfortably then an SUV. Can you haul sheets of plywood in your SUV? How about a full size kitchen table (it was huge, and I got it on a whim at a yard sale, so I had to pull seats and readjuste on the fly...me and the 2 kids). I also get 24ish MPG out of it all the time.
If you aren't man enough to admit that the minivan is a good idea, they make pills for that now.
IIRC, the OP is a physician & needs to bust snowdrifts in the wintertime occasionally.
I think a Snowcat and a minivan should do the job nicely
Actually I think the OP needs 2 vehicles, one for winter use like a 4X4 pickup and an AWD minivan
AWD maybe, but since most are front wheel drive, I think of AWD as an Oops fixer. 4WD/AWD won't compensate for driving like a retard (unfortunately)
If you can't get the job done with FWD, then you won't with AWD (imho). Of course, I learned to drive snow in a 1970 Plymouth, so I might be biased.
Yep, I'm learned how to drive in snow in a RWD, have always been impressed with FWD in the snow & ice.
I think all new drivers should be required to spend the first winter in an old brick with RWD...I think it would make better winter drivers out of them all.
It would certainly teach them the butt clench maneuver :laugh:
Honestly I never got real comfortable with FWD in the slippery stuff, and all I own are RWD vehicles at the moment, hell, it only snows/freezes a couple of times a year where i live now & the whole region just shuts down anyway
Originally posted by: mattpegher
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: nweaver
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: nweaver
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: nweaver
I don't know why folks avoid the minivan, it's one of the best designs out there. It hauls more people and more stuff comfortably then an SUV. Can you haul sheets of plywood in your SUV? How about a full size kitchen table (it was huge, and I got it on a whim at a yard sale, so I had to pull seats and readjuste on the fly...me and the 2 kids). I also get 24ish MPG out of it all the time.
If you aren't man enough to admit that the minivan is a good idea, they make pills for that now.
IIRC, the OP is a physician & needs to bust snowdrifts in the wintertime occasionally.
I think a Snowcat and a minivan should do the job nicely
Actually I think the OP needs 2 vehicles, one for winter use like a 4X4 pickup and an AWD minivan
AWD maybe, but since most are front wheel drive, I think of AWD as an Oops fixer. 4WD/AWD won't compensate for driving like a retard (unfortunately)
If you can't get the job done with FWD, then you won't with AWD (imho). Of course, I learned to drive snow in a 1970 Plymouth, so I might be biased.
Yep, I'm learned how to drive in snow in a RWD, have always been impressed with FWD in the snow & ice.
I think all new drivers should be required to spend the first winter in an old brick with RWD...I think it would make better winter drivers out of them all.
It would certainly teach them the butt clench maneuver :laugh:
Honestly I never got real comfortable with FWD in the slippery stuff, and all I own are RWD vehicles at the moment, hell, it only snows/freezes a couple of times a year where i live now & the whole region just shuts down anyway
Since I learned to drive in a 1970 Chevy laguna, on cobblestone roads in the hills of Pittsburgh, PA, I really don't desire to rely on RWD anymore. Although you could throw that sucker in reverse and gun it to slow down when going down an icey hill. Wouldn't try that with anything today the back end would rip off.
Originally posted by: ?o??p???u
Used Mercury Grand Marquis?
Originally posted by: nweaver
that was a worthless venture (imho). Once your wheels start spinning in ice/snow, you are at the mercy of Newton. That's part of the problem, you are much better off to put the car into neutral and use your brakes going down an icy hill.
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: nweaver
that was a worthless venture (imho). Once your wheels start spinning in ice/snow, you are at the mercy of Newton. That's part of the problem, you are much better off to put the car into neutral and use your brakes going down an icy hill.
Real life isn't as black and white as that...while it's not usually helpful, I can see some situations where throwing it in reverse and gunning it would offer better decceleration on an icy/semi-icy surface than braking.
Originally posted by: nweaver
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: nweaver
that was a worthless venture (imho). Once your wheels start spinning in ice/snow, you are at the mercy of Newton. That's part of the problem, you are much better off to put the car into neutral and use your brakes going down an icy hill.
Real life isn't as black and white as that...while it's not usually helpful, I can see some situations where throwing it in reverse and gunning it would offer better decceleration on an icy/semi-icy surface than braking.
no, because as soon as you break loose, you loose WAY more traction. It might not make sense, but as long as you aren't spinning, there is some traction. As soon as it's spinning, it's not providing ANY traction. ON dry pavement, yes. On ice? no. That is why when you climb a hill in a low traction situation (such as ice, or gravel) you stop once you break loose, pretty much no more movement. It's better to take it slow and not break loose.
Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
'59 Caddy. You can fit three in the front seat, four in the rear, and the trunk seats six. If you need more room, put a bench seat across the wings.
Originally posted by: mattpegher
Originally posted by: nweaver
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: nweaver
that was a worthless venture (imho). Once your wheels start spinning in ice/snow, you are at the mercy of Newton. That's part of the problem, you are much better off to put the car into neutral and use your brakes going down an icy hill.
Real life isn't as black and white as that...while it's not usually helpful, I can see some situations where throwing it in reverse and gunning it would offer better decceleration on an icy/semi-icy surface than braking.
no, because as soon as you break loose, you loose WAY more traction. It might not make sense, but as long as you aren't spinning, there is some traction. As soon as it's spinning, it's not providing ANY traction. ON dry pavement, yes. On ice? no. That is why when you climb a hill in a low traction situation (such as ice, or gravel) you stop once you break loose, pretty much no more movement. It's better to take it slow and not break loose.
Ah but that was the good old days when you had spikes on your winter tires. So it worked to keep me from spinning backwards.
Originally posted by: LordMorpheus
Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
'59 Caddy. You can fit three in the front seat, four in the rear, and the trunk seats six. If you need more room, put a bench seat across the wings.
You can do that in my 1997 Town Car, except the part with the wings, and it's probably better on gas and more reliable than a '59 caddy.
That said, having a third person up front isn't that comfortable, even though there is a belt for him. It's easier to just put four people in the back, and it's not even all that crowded when you do that.