Comey hearings today

UglyCasanova

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He said Huma knowingly emailed Weiner classified info.

Also that he was nauseated that he might have influenced the election. I agree it would have been concealment had he not disclosed the Weiner stuff.

Not a single head is going to roll though.
 

DrunkenSano

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Sounds like Comey was stuck between a rock and a hard place. A lose-lose situation.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39795325

FBI Director James Comey has said it makes him "mildly nauseous" to think that he could have had an impact on the US presidential election.

But Mr Comey said he thought concealing the discovery of new Hillary Clinton emails would have been "catastrophic".

The comments came during a Senate panel on FBI oversight, in which Mr Comey faced tough questions about his inquiry into Mrs Clinton's private email use.

Mr Comey added that "even in hindsight I would make the same decision".

The remarks are the FBI chief's first public explanation of why he reopened an investigation into Mrs Clinton's use of a private email server just days before last November's presidential election.

Analysis - Anthony Zurcher, BBC News, Washington
FBI Director James Comey said concealing the fact that his agency had reopened its investigation into Hillary Clinton's private email server would have been "catastrophic".

What he didn't say was that the reason it would have been so damaging is that the news would have leaked even if he had kept silent.

In those final weeks before the election, some in the FBI clearly thought the Clinton investigation was being handled poorly and were expressing their views - and sharing details - on background to the media.

This is the "catastrophic" scenario Mr Comey probably envisioned:

He keeps mum, in keeping with FBI policy on investigations that could affect upcoming elections.

The story comes out despite his silence. Mrs Clinton wins, as appeared likely at the time based on polls and prognosticators. Then the contents of the emails reveal misdeeds by now president-elect Clinton.

It's not a stretch to think Mr Comey would view such developments as threatening the "death of the FBI", in his words - an outcome that had to be avoided at all cost, even if it helped put Donald Trump in the White House.


"It makes me mildly nauseous to think that we might have had some impact on the election," Mr Comey said on Wednesday.

"But, honestly, it wouldn't change the decision."

Mr Comey added that failing to inform Congress would have been an "act of concealment".

His testimony comes a day after Mrs Clinton once again blamed her surprise upset on Mr Comey's actions, as well as alleged meddling in the US election by Russian hackers.

"If the election had been on October 27, I would be your president," she said in New York on Tuesday, referring to the day before Mr Comey notified Congress of the discovery of new emails.

"I was on the way to winning until a combination of Jim Comey's letter on October 28 and Russian Wikileaks raised doubts in the minds of people who were inclined to vote for me and got scared off."

But President Donald Trump hit back online.

"FBI Director Comey was the best thing that ever happened to Hillary Clinton in that he gave her a free pass for many bad deeds!" he tweeted.

"The phony Trump/Russia story was an excuse used by the Democrats as justification for losing the election. Perhaps Trump just ran a great campaign?"

'Thousands of new emails'
The FBI chief on Wednesday also revealed that Clinton emails containing classified information were forwarded to former congressman Anthony Weiner.

"They found thousands of new emails. They found classified information on Anthony Weiner," he said while under questioning from Democrat Senator Dianne Feinstein.

"Somehow, her [Mrs Clinton's] emails were being forwarded to Anthony Weiner, including classified information, by her assistant Huma Abedin."

Mr Weiner, a New York Democrat, was married at the time to Ms Abedin, a top Clinton aide.

He was separately under investigation for inappropriate communications with an under-age girl.

'The greatest threat on earth'
Mr Comey also faced sharp questions in Wednesday's hearing about Russia's alleged role in tilting the election in favour of Mr Trump.

When asked whether the Kremlin was still meddling in American politics, Mr Comey responded: "Yes".

"I think one of the lessons that the Russians may have drawn from this is, 'this works'," the FBI director said.

Senator Lindsey Graham, who is part of a Senate investigation into alleged Russian interference, pressed Mr Comey about what kind of threat Russia presents.

"Certainly, in my view, the greatest threat of any nation on earth, given their intention and their capability," said the law enforcement chief.

In March, Mr Comey confirmed during testimony before a House of Representatives panel the FBI had opened an investigation into Russia's suspected interference in the presidential election.

Democrats have criticised Mr Comey for not revealing the investigation before the election as he had with Mrs Clinton.

But the FBI head said he treated both inquiries "consistently".
 

fskimospy

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He said Huma knowingly emailed Weiner classified info.

Also that he was nauseated that he might have influenced the election. I agree it would have been concealment had he not disclosed the Weiner stuff.

Not a single head is going to roll though.

He actually said the exact opposite of that, that she had no intent to violate any law. If she was knowingly emailing him classified material that would clearly show intent to violate the law.

Somehow, her emails are being forwarded to Anthony Weiner, including classified information, by her assistant, Huma Abedin. And so they found thousands of new emails and then called me the Saturday night before the election and said thanks to the wizardry of our technology, we've only had to personally read 6,000. We think we can finish tomorrow morning, Sunday.

And so I met with them and they said we found a lot of new stuff. We did not find anything that changes our view of her intent.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...n-email-investigation/?utm_term=.d4a595b719c0

Can you let us know what unscrupulous conservative media organization duped you yet again?

 
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I found his explanation that he treated both investigations the same a bit suspect. I don't recall him issuing anything at all that Trump campaign officials were under investigation since June. Don't remember him holding any press conferences to discuss that either. Why he felt it necessary to send out the letter in October that amounted to absolutely nothing sure doesn't seem like he treated both investigations the same.
 

alien42

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He said Huma knowingly emailed Weiner classified info.

one of the least important and most insignificant things he said and you mention it first.

and of course you didn't even mention anything about Russian hacking of our election, which is extremely important and significant.

comrade uglycasanova
 

fskimospy

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I found his explanation that he treated both investigations the same a bit suspect. I don't recall him issuing anything at all that Trump campaign officials were under investigation since June. Don't remember him holding any press conferences to discuss that either. Why he felt it necessary to send out the letter in October that amounted to absolutely nothing sure doesn't seem like he treated both investigations the same.

I agree he was in a rock and a hard place at the end of October but that was the result of his own prior unethical actions. The FBI does not comment on investigations and it most certainly does not come out and hold press conferences castigating people it chooses not to indict.

The standard should have been incredibly simple: if you're going to indict someone, indict them. If you aren't, then shut up. If some new evidence arises that makes you change your decision, inform the relevant people at that time. Comey has no one to blame but himself.
 

Thump553

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He said Huma knowingly emailed Weiner classified info.

Also that he was nauseated that he might have influenced the election. I agree it would have been concealment had he not disclosed the Weiner stuff.

Not a single head is going to roll though.

I missed the show-was he crying crocodile tears at the time? He's a very astute politician for his entire life-he knew exactly what the effect of his VOLUNTARY and PUBLIC announcements would be. He and we will have to live with the consequences of his actions, but I don't buy this nausea claim one bit. Thrilled is a more appropriate descriptive term.

OP you didn't mention anything about Russia-I assume he is ducking all those questions?
 

soundforbjt

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I missed the show-was he crying crocodile tears at the time? He's a very astute politician for his entire life-he knew exactly what the effect of his VOLUNTARY and PUBLIC announcements would be. He and we will have to live with the consequences of his actions, but I don't buy this nausea claim one bit. Thrilled is a more appropriate descriptive term.

OP you didn't mention anything about Russia-I assume he is ducking all those questions?
His nausea probably stemmed from being worried what would happen to him if Hillary won.
 

Jhhnn

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Sounds like Comey was stuck between a rock and a hard place. A lose-lose situation.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39795325

Gawd. The only catastrophe that might have occurred would have been his place at the head of the FBI. That's all he cared about when he sent the letter to Congress.

He had already determined that there was no intent on the part of Clinton to reveal classified information so whatever Huma forwarded to Anthony was immaterial.
 
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Blackjack200

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Sounds like Comey was stuck between a rock and a hard place. A lose-lose situation.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39795325

He clearly thought that Clinton was going to win, and announced the new probe to insulate the agency from criticism in that event.

I agree he was in a rock and a hard place at the end of October but that was the result of his own prior unethical actions. The FBI does not comment on investigations and it most certainly does not come out and hold press conferences castigating people it chooses not to indict.

The standard should have been incredibly simple: if you're going to indict someone, indict them. If you aren't, then shut up. If some new evidence arises that makes you change your decision, inform the relevant people at that time. Comey has no one to blame but himself.

Agree 100%. When he held that press conference calling Clinton 'reckless' without indicting her, that should have been the end of his career.
 

ivwshane

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Fuck comey! Seriously fuck him.

First off, what's with this "conceal" line of bullshit? Is he or is he not concealing whether or not trump has ties to the Russians in terms of the election? Is it or is it not standard policy of the FBI to conceal whether or not there is currently any ongoing investigations?

So someone please explain to me how in the fuck would it have been catastrophic for the FBI to do what it has always and continues to do, conceal ongoing investigations?

His reasoning, quite frankly, is laughable.

The logical solution to his "dilemma" would have been to contribute investigating further and complete the investigation and then, if needed, to tell Congress what the findings were.

If people want to know who the anti establishment really are, just look at the Clinton's and the almost 30 years of attacks on them from the actual establishment.
 

FIVR

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Comey just wants to grandstand and talk about the many evils of full disk encryption. He has literally zero interest in investigating TrumpCo and Putin/Russia or any of the many possible scandals because he is a partisan hack who only cares about his own image.



He also knows that as long as he is pissing everyone off (but still not actually doing anything against Trump) his job is safe and he can always point to his critics on both sides and say "see? I'm doing my job!" and it will look believable to some because he really does piss everybody off.
 

alien42

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Comey just wants to grandstand and talk about the many evils of full disk encryption. He has literally zero interest in investigating TrumpCo and Putin/Russia or any of the many possible scandals because he is a partisan hack who only cares about his own image. Nothing to see here, move along.

that wouldn't explain why the current active investigation has been going on for around 9 months. it is also quite clear they have good shit on Carter Page because Comey couldn't answer any questions in regards to him. i do think Comey screwed Hillary but i don't believe that makes him as partisan as you suggest.
 

FIVR

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that wouldn't explain why the current active investigation has been going on for around 9 months. it is also quite clear they have good shit on Carter Page because Comey couldn't answer any questions in regards to him. i do think Comey screwed Hillary but i don't believe that makes him as partisan as you suggest.

A 9 month investigation, to what end? They had HRC as Obama's secretary of state in public accusatory hearings for years after Benghazi but they can spend 9 months twiddling their thumbs while the Russians take over?


FBI is an F-ing joke. Seriously, I do not respect them as a law enforcement agency at all. They are a state-sanctioned group of incompetent GOP thugs. Did you read the recent story about how one of their top agents literally married and ISIS member?


http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/01/politics/investigates-fbi-syria-greene/

This woman should have hung. Nobody even asked comey about her. What a joke this country is.
 

theeedude

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So concealing Trump ties to Russia and allowing a Putin backed puppet to become president is A-OK, but concealing Clinton nothing-burger is catastrophic?
 
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Maxima1

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Comey admitted there's 2 grand juries. That was the best thing about it!!! And it's rocket docket East District of Virginia!
 

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He clearly thought that Clinton was going to win, and announced the new probe to insulate the agency from criticism in that event.

He was just covering his own ass. Had it been leaked, he'd lose face. If by some remote chance it had somehow been significant down the road, he'd lose face. It's not about the agency but about him.
 

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He was just covering his own ass. Had it been leaked, he'd lose face. If by some remote chance it had somehow been significant down the road, he'd lose face. It's not about the agency but about him.

I don't think he mentioned it (makes sense to be evasive on this), but it was going to be leaked by Giuliani's henchmen in Trumpland FBI and NYPD before the election. His defense of what he did is still retarded. The Trump-Russia investigation involves cheating in the election via treason, and is therefore much worse because we have only the stupid line of succession to go by if it did occur. If Hillary was guilty of something, she goes out and line of succession is fine. So stupid to just update on Hillary but not reveal Trump camp.
 

Jhhnn

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I don't think he mentioned it (makes sense to be evasive on this), but it was going to be leaked by Giuliani's henchmen in Trumpland FBI and NYPD before the election. His defense of what he did is still retarded. The Trump-Russia investigation involves cheating in the election via treason, and is therefore much worse because we have only the stupid line of succession to go by if it did occur. If Hillary was guilty of something, she goes out and line of succession is fine. So stupid to just update on Hillary but not reveal Trump camp.

The only reason to pre-empt a leak is to pretend that you're in control when you're not.
 

Paratus

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He was just covering his own ass. Had it been leaked, he'd lose face. If by some remote chance it had somehow been significant down the road, he'd lose face. It's not about the agency but about him.

He had to make sure he kept the FBI impartial. So he chose to do that by showing up the republicans that he wasn't beholden to the Obama administration nor to Clintons potential administration. For the Russian thing he wasn't supposed to discuss cases anyway and the republicans wouldn't be breathing down his neck by not mentioning it. Plus it would be moot when when Clinton won.

Comey keeps the FBI "impartial" in his own mind.

Instead he provided a whole bunch of straw for the camels back and helped change the outcome of the election. Oops.
 
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He dodged the question as to why the last minute Hillary email came up but no mention of Russian/Trump staffer info was released until after the election.
I get that he was in a tight spot but if you're going to release one before the election you really should release the other too.
 

FIVR

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"Oops" indeed. Maybe he'll "Oops!" his way out of actually charging any American citizens in his Russia investigations too. So far that is his second "Oops". But we all have confidence that comey is a tall, tall man. So tall in fact, that he likely can see what's headed toward us before we can. So chill out, man... Comey is a tall man with a plan, don't you understand?
 

Pens1566

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Biggest news was confirming the Grand Juries. Lots of Glomar'ing ... gonna get interesting.