Comcast Starts Online Video ‘Toll Booth,’ Netflix Supplier Says

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  1. her209

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  2. helpme

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    Lame, Comcast already has a 250GB cap, so they shouldn't even be trying this.
     
  3. Scholzpdx

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    *** Comcast.
     
  4. Crono

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    I hope everyone fights Comcast with their wallets.

    If they don't, the other ISPs might try this garbage.
    Luckily for me Cablevision (Optimum Online) is a much more consumer-friendly ISP. For now.
     
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    pretty sure some of us said this is exactly what would happen without net nut laws in place to prevent it
     
  6. techs

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    Q.F.T.
     
  7. ch33zw1z

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    Too bad Comcast is my only feasible option. This is unfortunate for sure, I have a hard enough time staying under the cap, all we do is stream from Netflix and other sources. I guess I could move on to illegal downloading...
     
  8. techs

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    And we will be right when Comcast and the other cable companies end over the air free tv.
     
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    I'm surprised it took this long. Others will follow, especially with netflix accounting for more than 20% of peak traffic.
     
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    I thought it was the evil torrenters using it all up.
     
  11. techs

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    Yes, because Comcast couldn't possibly be expected to expand their capacity. It is only possible to keep charging more until people won't use the internet for anything but casual web surfing and email.

    /sarcasm
     
  12. Anubis

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    P2P still uses a lot its just the everything else is now using more so it makes what P2P is using look a lot smaller in comparison
     
  13. bignateyk

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    I fought them with my wallet as much as I could. I dropped to the lowest internet subscription, and basic cable. Unfortunatly I can't get satellite for TV because of all the trees around where I live, and I am out of range of the OTA channels. There is no FIOS or other option for internet for me, so I am pretty much forced to use comcrap unless I don't want internet or TV at all...
     
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    im curious how many movies do you watch to get to the 250 GB cap. Im curious because id be hard presses to hit 250 do illegal things
     
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    Unfortunately, I can only push back so hard. Cities all over around me have FIOS available, but I literally can only get Comcast for internet. Screw Comcast is right, I've switched everything else off of them, but I can't drop them for internet. I'd go wireless but the speeds/lag are not resonable. I don't even have DSL available because Verizon ran fiber to the poll outside this home not copper.
     
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    This is why I was completely against the comcast nbc merger. With the merger they now control what hulu does. People said that comcast wouldn't dare charge extra for outside providers and access based on content. I knew better.

     
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    I actually saw some one say that 'this' is why we can't have net neutrality laws when referring to the torrent freak domain seizure....but uh...we don't have NN and that did happen? So....

    Anyway, NN is a band aid to hold together the mess we have in the US for ISP and "competition" (LOL). It ain't great, but I'd say it'll have to do because there's no way those local monopolies and their campaign contributions and lobbying are going to go away any time soon.
     
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    The problem is that netflix traffic increased extremely quickly over the past 2 years, and the companies have no way of magically "flipping a switch" and allowing more bandwidth overnight. I don't know if they are hitting peaks that is affecting performance in their pipes, but I'm sure they aren't too thrilled about all of this new traffic they need to manage.

    I agree they should be regularly increasing bandwidth, and this does look like a cash grab. They probably look at it as punishing the bandwidth abusers, as they do with the caps. I'm surprised they are doing it in conjunction with a bandwidth cap though, that is ballsy.
     
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    I don't feel sorry for ISPs. They advertise and sell based on connection speeds. They should be able to offer unlimited bandwidth for whatever connection speed they advertise instead of essentially "overselling".
     
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    A little background about netflix recently that some may not know. Netflix previously was using akamai for content delivery. The contract with them ran out and so netflix a few weeks ago asked for bids from other companies, level 3 won that bid. Netflix is estimated to use 20% of all internet traffic in the USA during evening hours.

    If comcast has a problem with the usage then they need to take care of it in the regular contracts not just come out of the blue with a new fee. Level 3 doesn't have to use comcast , they could cut off comcast customers from netflix. Imagine the backlash to comcast for that.




    Press release from level 3
     
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    The problem isn't the 250GB data cap. The issue is the instant huge influx of increased bandwidth. It doesn't matter if Comcast users are reaching the data cap or not. The problem is that too many of them are using a lot more data.

    With Netflix increasing in users streaming everyday, this puts a huge strain on Comcast that they weren't prepared for and its only going to get worse.

    Comcast being the greedy bastards they are aren't happy with the amount of bandwidth being used so they have to look elsewhere to collect their monies. We could very well see increased prices, whether it be from Netflix or through Comcast, when streaming becomes more prevalent.
     
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    Hahaha... I'd imagine Comcast users would have a shitstorm if Netflix/Level-3 said, we're blocking access to Comcast users, similar to what happened with the Fox/Cablevision dispute.
     
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    Bastards, get rid of my 250GB cap dammit!
     
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    Back at the Comcast offices:

    "We are losing more and more money to satellite providers, what should we do?"
    "We could lower bandwidth caps on our broadband customers. That would force them to pay for higher priced plans with higher caps."
    "Sounds good, do it. Anybody else?"

    "How about charging from the other end?"
    "Tell me more..."
    "Sure. We don't only charge the customer, we charge the provider of content."
    "Hmmm. Like charging the Sun for itself for providing solar power. I love it!"

    "Our customers love us so much."
    "No kidding, we're awesome!"

    gg
    gg
     
  25. techs

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    Gee, you think Comcast just "magically" upgrading speeds without actually expanding the capacity to handle increased data flow is the problem?

    Internet companies should be in violation of their contracts if they can't supply say, at least 95 percent of their advertised speed at least 95 percent of the time.

    Oh, and no bandwidth caps.