Columbus Day was changed to Feather Indian Day

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JSt0rm

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I'm not saying it's good to celebrate Columbus day. I'm saying it's stupid to replace one stupid holiday with another stupid holiday.

Ignorance is still officially celebrated in the US, it's just shifting to politically correct ignorance.


Is it stupid for native Americans to want to replace this holiday? I mean you as a white guy shouldn't really have any say in what they do to cope with what happened to them.
 

brianmanahan

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Is it stupid for native Americans to want to replace this holiday? I mean you as a white guy shouldn't really have any say in what they do to cope with what happened to them.

generally, people who get conquered don't make the rules anymore

they just get wiped out or assimilated into the new culture

at least that's how it used to happen
 

BoberFett

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Is it stupid for native Americans to want to replace this holiday? I mean you as a white guy shouldn't really have any say in what they do to cope with what happened to them.

So cancel the holiday entirely.

As I said, are you going to make sure that school children learn about the atrocities that Native American's visited on one another long before TEH EBIL WHITEY ever got here?

Either you OK with history revision or you're not.
 

JSt0rm

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generally, people who get conquered don't make the rules anymore

they just get wiped out or assimilated into the new culture

at least that's how it used to happen


Because the way things have always been done in the past is always the best way.


So cancel the holiday entirely.

As I said, are you going to make sure that school children learn about the atrocities that Native American's visited on one another long before TEH EBIL WHITEY ever got here?

Either you OK with history revision or you're not.

Im sure native American studies go into detail about warring tribes. Although these are probably college level history classes.

Why are you so intent on defending the actions of white people? We won. White culture won. Why cant native people reject a day devoted to a guy who 1. didnt actualy find america and 2. was an asshole?

Why do you care so much about maintaining white power?
 

BoberFett

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Im sure native American studies go into detail about warring tribes. Although these are probably college level history classes.

Why are you so intent on defending the actions of white people? We won. White culture won. Why cant native people reject a day devoted to a guy who 1. didnt actualy find america and 2. was an asshole?

Why do you care so much about maintaining white power?

LOL, you "liberals" and your idiotic bullshit.

1. White people, me included, don't give a shit about Columbus Day other than the fact that it's a day off.

2. White people, me included, don't spend the holiday reflecting on the greatness of Columbus and decorating the Genocide Tree.

3. What in holy fuck does Columbus Day have to do with white power?

4. How does changing from whitewashing history about Columbus to whitewashing history about Native Americans make things any better?

5. I said, if people don't like it, cancel it altogether. How is that "maintaining white power" you moron?

LOL, "liberal" guilt is so pathetic. Some white people used to do shitty things, so now all white people need to grovel at the feet of anybody whose skin is slightly darker than theirs.

Indigenous People's Day, LOL, what a bunch of PC bullshit.
 

JSt0rm

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What you fail to see is the world was so focused on white males and as things change we find white males screaming about pc bullshit. Hopefully you find some enlightenment in this brave new world if not I doubt many will care.

Its kinda funny that the barrier to changing the name of a holiday in your mind must include teaching children about how native Americans waged war with each other. Its literal nonsense.
 

BoberFett

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What you fail to see is the world was so focused on white males and as things change we find white males screaming about pc bullshit. Hopefully you find some enlightenment in this brave new world if not I doubt many will care.

LOL, the world is focused on white males? Yep, those Irish potato farmers had all that white male privilege, even the Chinese emperors were jealous. It's all about whitey. You live in some imaginary world of white conspiracies.

Its kinda funny that the barrier to changing the name of a holiday in your mind must include teaching children about how native Americans waged war with each other. Its literal nonsense.

No, what's funny is that you think we shouldn't have a holiday about some dead white guy because he did bad things, but then ignore the bad things done by the people you want to replace him with. But at least they're not white, huh?
 

Markbnj

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From Europe, it would seem to be no real feat of navigation to get to the America (s)

To circumnavigate the world like Drake & Magellan is a feat.

Both Capes are a challenge to get through/around. And then to get to another location afterwards.

I consider it a real feat even today, with GPS and full glass navigation stations. Magellan sailed 20 years-ish after Columbus, and of course was building on what Columbus learned in his passage to the West Indies. Drake was almost a century after Columbus. They were all spectacular voyages, made at a time when it was impossible for sailors to determine their longitude.

The Viking voyages to Newfoundland are not to be forgotten, of course. They were even more spectacular in a lot of ways, and given the even cruder navigational tools the feat was even more impressive. None of that detracts from what Columbus accomplished in navigating his little flotilla across the main part of the Atlantic.
 

Markbnj

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The United States of America isn't America, it's just a collection of states within the continent. North-, Central- and South-America together form America. While he didn't visit 99% of it, he did visit America.

Yes, it's good to remind Canada and Cuba which continent they belong to.
 

norseamd

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The Viking voyages to Newfoundland are not to be forgotten, of course. They were even more spectacular in a lot of ways, and given the even cruder navigational tools the feat was even more impressive.


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MongGrel

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LOL, you "liberals" and your idiotic bullshit.

1. White people, me included, don't give a shit about Columbus Day other than the fact that it's a day off.

2. White people, me included, don't spend the holiday reflecting on the greatness of Columbus and decorating the Genocide Tree.

3. What in holy fuck does Columbus Day have to do with white power?

4. How does changing from whitewashing history about Columbus to whitewashing history about Native Americans make things any better?

5. I said, if people don't like it, cancel it altogether. How is that "maintaining white power" you moron?

LOL, "liberal" guilt is so pathetic. Some white people used to do shitty things, so now all white people need to grovel at the feet of anybody whose skin is slightly darker than theirs.

Indigenous People's Day, LOL, what a bunch of PC bullshit.

I'm 45% German, 25% English, 25% Welsh, and maybe 5% Native American.

You're so racist in reality it is pathetic, I get a bit of a kick hearing you ramble on most of the time.

What a weird person.
 

pcgeek11

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I'm curious, if you are a 4th grade teacher on the subject Columbus discovers America, little Johnny raises his hand and says, "Mr. Pcgeek11, weren't there people here when Columbus landed? How did he discover it?"

Your answer is?

Europe didn't know it was here...