Colorado switched to all mail in voting. How is it working?

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Ken g6

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I'm from Colorado. I've voted mail-in (well, drop-off) for years. The biggest problem I've had is finding the city drop-off box as opposed to the county/state/national box. :)

I wouldn't say mail-in voting is vulnerable to outright fraud. It is potentially vulnerable to coercion, but I've never seen an example of that in reality. Otherwise my boss would have made me vote Republican. ;)
 

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I am in colorado also. as i have mentioned in other threads on the issue, Mail in seems to be fine here. there is some talk of the boulder city clerk not keeping the records as they should and not allowing foia requests as they should, but that's not a mail in issue.

we get our ballots in the mail, vote and home and drop them in a box in the city to avoid any post office shenanigans. i think having drop boxes is better than mailing them back in.
 

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I am in colorado also. as i have mentioned in other threads on the issue, Mail in seems to be fine here. there is some talk of the boulder city clerk not keeping the records as they should and not allowing foia requests as they should, but that's not a mail in issue.

we get our ballots in the mail, vote and home and drop them in a box in the city to avoid any post office shenanigans. i think having drop boxes is better than mailing them back in.
Are dropboxes only out during the day and manned? I can see Republican operatives at night just stealing the entire dropbox in a primarily minority district.
 

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Are dropboxes only out during the day and manned? I can see Republican operatives at night just stealing the entire dropbox in a primarily minority district.

around here, the Democrats/environmentalists are the ones to be weary of. i could see them at the box telling anyone that drives a pick up truck to go home. I have my signs stolen on the regular from my house. even when they are screwed to wood attached to a t post drove in the ground. how about cars in driveways of people with signs for the "wrong" side of an issue being vandalized? welcome to boulder county. and i have and will never have a maga sign. my signs have been issue based, not for specific people.



also, don't be an idiot. it's a cardboard box in the rain that you put them in... what could go wrong?


its basically just a big steel post office box bolted to the ground. the boxes are locked and they are permanent.
 

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Are dropboxes only out during the day and manned? I can see Republican operatives at night just stealing the entire dropbox in a primarily minority district.
The city drop box is bolted to the ground like a mailbox. In the past I've gone inside to use one county drop box - they check my signature, stamp it, and put it in a lockbox.

Since the pandemic I've used the 24-hour dropbox. It's a slot through the window of the local county office. I think there's also a camera to make sure people don't drop off more than 10 ballots.
 

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around here, the Democrats/environmentalists are the ones to be weary of. i could see them at the box telling anyone that drives a pick up truck to go home. I have my signs stolen on the regular from my house. even when they are screwed to wood attached to a t post drove in the ground. how about cars in driveways of people with signs for the "wrong" side of an issue being vandalized? welcome to boulder county. and i have and will never have a maga sign. my signs have been issue based, not for specific people.



also, don't be an idiot. it's a cardboard box in the rain that you put them in... what could go wrong?


its basically just a big steel post office box bolted to the ground. the boxes are locked and they are permanent.

I like seeing signs in yards and property advertising political affiliation, I think being pro-active is a good thing. It also lets me know where the fucking MAGA idiots live. However I'd never go into someone's yard to vandalize a sigh, that should be quashed regardless of affiliation and is wrong.
 
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I like seeing signs in yards and property advertising political affiliation, I think being pro-active is a good thing. It also lets me know where the fucking MAGA idiots live. However I'd never go into someone's yard to vandalize a sigh, that should be quashed regardless of affiliation and is wrong.

Limited & appropriate I’m okay with yard signs, even MAGA signs. One sign maybe two small signs is acceptable but not what I would do.
I kind of feel they cause division with neighbors.
Generic messages like vote! or Thank You Covid Heroes Don’t count.
 

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I like seeing signs in yards and property advertising political affiliation, I think being pro-active is a good thing. It also lets me know where the fucking MAGA idiots live. However I'd never go into someone's yard to vandalize a sigh, that should be quashed regardless of affiliation and is wrong.

YEP. agree. mine said "i am Colorado oil and gas" raising awareness for the number of people that work in the industry in our state, and vote no on a proposition.
 

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Trump's arguments against it are nonsense and contradictory. He likes it in FL but doesn't like it in NV....not hard to figure out why.

Mail voting is secure, convenient, and should be the standard for all elections in the US. Let votes be counted before eDay overseen by a bipartisan commission so all they have to do is tabulate the final mail votes and in person votes so as to report a timely result. Everyone should be able to register and request a ballot by mail or online. Simple.
 

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It's been the holiest of holy duty for the Repubs to suppress the vote of folks who would possibly vote Dem for nigh on decades. The Repub leadership is, true to form looking at the pandemic as another opportunity to further suppress the vote of the opposition.

The problem with that is they have a POTUS in their corner who keeps getting in the way of that mission of theirs because he is not a team player, quite the opposite actually. Trump is practically suicidal in this way, being exclusively concerned with his predicament and his alone while not having the savvy to save himself from himself.
 
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I'm from Colorado. I've voted mail-in (well, drop-off) for years. The biggest problem I've had is finding the city drop-off box as opposed to the county/state/national box. :)

I wouldn't say mail-in voting is vulnerable to outright fraud. It is potentially vulnerable to coercion, but I've never seen an example of that in reality. Otherwise my boss would have made me vote Republican. ;)

lol sounds like Colorado.

I work in sales tax - and Colorado is known as a "home rule state" whereby the individual jurisdictions (City, county, districts) can designate their own taxes/laws and decide for themselves what is taxable.

So for example, you can buy a product and it can be exempt at the state and county level, but taxable at a local district/city level... Works in reverse as well of taxable in the state but exempt at 1 or 2 of the localities.



Most other states work by designating the taxes at the state level where they decide what products are taxable/not taxable and the localities only get to decide their tax rate.

 

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I work in sales tax - and Colorado is known as a "home rule state" whereby the individual jurisdictions (City, county, districts) can designate their own taxes/laws and decide for themselves what is taxable.

So for example, you can buy a product and it can be exempt at the state and county level, but taxable at a local district/city level... Works in reverse as well of taxable in the state but exempt at 1 or 2 of the localities

yep. loveland costco is like 8.xx sales tax and Thorton is 12.xx we go a few miles extra to loveland! and some places have sales tax on food, and some don't.
 

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Works great, particularly with the ballot bloat we get over various initiatives & so forth. I suspect I may someday be asked to vote on making the anniversary of the baked potato into a state holiday. Some of them are actually pretty tricky to figure out. I get a notification when my ballot is accepted.

Dunno what sales taxes or yard signs have to do with it.
 

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Remember, one of Trump’s contentions is that no one can know when the mail-in ballot was actually mailed so ballots could be sent in anytime, including after Election Day.
I guess Pres Big Brain (or smooth brain-you decide which fits better) has never heard of postmarks.
 
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Remember, one of Trump’s contentions is that no one can know when the mail-in ballot was actually mailed so ballots could be sent in anytime, including after Election Day.
I guess Pres Big Brain (or smooth brain-you decide which fits better) has never heard of postmarks.
Those could be faked with a rubber stamp !

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Remember, one of Trump’s contentions is that no one can know when the mail-in ballot was actually mailed so ballots could be sent in anytime, including after Election Day.
I guess Pres Big Brain (or smooth brain-you decide which fits better) has never heard of postmarks.

The USPS doesn't postmark prepaid mail. The way it works in CO is that ballots not received before a certain time on election day simply aren't counted. Done. So the answer is, don't fuck around. Get it, fill it out, send it right in over the next few days, max. If you have any doubt about it getting there, take it to a drop off box.
 

HomerJS

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The USPS doesn't postmark prepaid mail. The way it works in CO is that ballots not received before a certain time on election day simply aren't counted. Done. So the answer is, don't fuck around. Get it, fill it out, send it right in over the next few days, max. If you have any doubt about it getting there, take it to a drop off box.
Some locations tried postmarking ballots but many times PO forgot out of habit.

If you can't get ballot back in the mail 1 week after receiving take it to a dropbox. Trump will have mail slowed even more if not outright stopped in certain locations before the election.
 

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Some locations tried postmarking ballots but many times PO forgot out of habit.

If you can't get ballot back in the mail 1 week after receiving take it to a dropbox. Trump will have mail slowed even more if not outright stopped in certain locations before the election.

Some states accept absentee ballots postmarked election day. It just adds a point of confusion & burdens the USPS in ways they don't need.
 

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Are dropboxes only out during the day and manned? I can see Republican operatives at night just stealing the entire dropbox in a primarily minority district.
The ones they use in Kitsap county, WA are very robust, like a commercial trash bin with locked metal slots on both sides so you can drive up and drop your ballot off from your car. Would take quite an effort. No Trump screwed up mail service to worry about.
 

Jhhnn

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The ones they use in Kitsap county, WA are very robust, like a commercial trash bin with locked metal slots on both sides so you can drive up and drop your ballot off from your car. Would take quite an effort. No Trump screwed up mail service to worry about.

Like this in Denver-


We also have drive-up drop off locations.