College to apologize to Bush for professor

Tallgeese

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From UPI:
The president of a California college is sending a letter to President Bush apologizing for an instructor who gave students extra credit for writing anti-war missives to the White House.

Citrus College President Louis E. Zellers wrote that Professor Rosalyn Kahn "did abuse her authority" in assigning students in her Speech 106 class to write letters to Bush protesting the possible war with Iraq.

"Students were clear in their understanding that they would only receive credit if they wrote 'protest' letters," Zellers said in a letter of thanks to FIRE -- the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education -- a Philadelphia-based campus watchdog group.
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brtspears2

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Ugh, extra credit. I got a feeling a lot of those letters were just done for the credit.
 

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Originally posted by: brtspears2
Ugh, extra credit. I got a feeling a lot of those letters were just done for the credit.

exactly that's the problem. It inherently promotes those with a certain view, or forces those to choose between their views and their grades. Say you were pro-war/bush, you would be at a disadvantage.

-Ed
 

jjones

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What a disgrace to the profession of teaching. She should have been encouraging her students to express their opinions, whatever they were, not if they only agreed with her own political view. Another case of political activism at its ugliest.
 

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And this is surprising? What about the teacher with the button that said "Bush isn't my president"? 90% of teachers in higher education are flaming liberals, and they don't even pretend to be unbiased........:|
 

Jmman

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Yeah, I live in Colorado and there was serious outrage here. He is lucky some off duty cadets didn't go up there and pound on him a little bit........
 

charrison

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Send her packing.

A letter to the president expressing their individual thoughts about iraq would have been appropriate.
 

hdeck

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Originally posted by: Jmman
And this is surprising? What about the teacher with the button that said "Bush isn't my president"? 90% of teachers in higher education are flaming liberals, and they don't even pretend to be unbiased........:|

exactly.
 

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She didn't grade them on being liberal only gave extra credit for expressing liberal views on paper; I see no problem with what she did and hope she stays and gets a raise for her trouble.
 

Tallgeese

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Originally posted by: ScottyB
She didn't grade them on being liberal only gave extra credit for expressing liberal views on paper; I see no problem with what she did and hope she stays and gets a raise for her trouble.
I knew it would only be a matter of time...
 

ScottyB

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Originally posted by: Tallgeese
Originally posted by: ScottyB
She didn't grade them on being liberal only gave extra credit for expressing liberal views on paper; I see no problem with what she did and hope she stays and gets a raise for her trouble.
I knew it would only be a matter of time...

and if she was a republican teacher and was giving extra credit for students sending letters to the military thanking them for what they do and not giving extra credit for students sending letters of disapproval would you want that teacher out?
 

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Meh..who cares, it's not as if Bush would read then anyway and if he did he'd just ignore the Anti War Sentiment as it's obvioulsy only a large minority. Frankly I think her actions only serve to mobilize those who have questions about their Pro War Stance to raise their voices in horror looking for others to help them justify their stance. Personally I don't need to hear what Morons on either side have to say as I have come to my own conclusions regarding the need to disarm Hussien by educating myself, not by listening to some misinformed idiots from either side of the issue.

This is much ado about nothing.
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: ScottyB
She didn't grade them on being liberal only gave extra credit for expressing liberal views on paper; I see no problem with what she did and hope she stays and gets a raise for her trouble.

So much for higher eduction being about freedom of expression
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I am sure you would be screaming if she gave extra credit for writing conservative papers.
 

ScottyB

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Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: ScottyB
She didn't grade them on being liberal only gave extra credit for expressing liberal views on paper; I see no problem with what she did and hope she stays and gets a raise for her trouble.

So much for higher eduction being about freedom of expression
rolleye.gif
I am sure you would be screaming if she gave extra credit for writing conservative papers.

No, I would say its her choice for extra credit and if political preference didn't change the core grade I wouldn't care.
 

Tallgeese

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Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: ScottyB
She didn't grade them on being liberal only gave extra credit for expressing liberal views on paper; I see no problem with what she did and hope she stays and gets a raise for her trouble.
So much for higher eduction being about freedom of expression
rolleye.gif
I am sure you would be screaming if she gave extra credit for writing conservative papers.
Looks like he beat ya to that point himself
Originally posted by: ScottyB
and if she was a republican teacher and was giving extra credit for students sending letters to the military thanking them for what they do and not giving extra credit for students sending letters of disapproval would you want that teacher out?
 

ScottyB

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Originally posted by: Tallgeese
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: ScottyB
She didn't grade them on being liberal only gave extra credit for expressing liberal views on paper; I see no problem with what she did and hope she stays and gets a raise for her trouble.
So much for higher eduction being about freedom of expression
rolleye.gif
I am sure you would be screaming if she gave extra credit for writing conservative papers.
Looks like he beat ya to that point himself
Originally posted by: ScottyBand if she was a republican teacher and was giving extra credit for students sending letters to the military thanking them for what they do and not giving extra credit for students sending letters of disapproval would you want that teacher out?

You didn't answer my question Tallgeese.