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College Student: Band + Job + College = Insanity.

Coldkilla

Diamond Member
I am having somewhat of an emotional loss for words here.

I am a college student at UW Milwaukee (Wisconsin) and I come to school twice a week. Tuesday/Thursday. On those days I am here for 12 hours. (This is because I am a full-time student). Last semester I was in school 5 days a week, however, taking the bus too and from school took 2 hours a day. So, 10+ hours a week for travel. I decided to make the days I came to school limited to two days. And so far, I love this opposed to a 5 day week.

Anyways, on the Tuesdays and Thursdays I am here and the days I am not (Monday/Wednesday/Friday), I work a parking lot job as a tenet. I sit in my car, waiting for cars to pull in and give me their parking fee and I give them their ticket. I do this for 3 hours and then I go home by 9:30am in the morning. I make 10 dollars an hour sitting in my car, where I can study and do my homework. $90.00 a week.

So theres, Monday through Friday. Well here's the 3rd aspect, I have a band. I choose to be in this band over a girlfriend in spending my time on weekends. The Friday/Saturday/Sunday (I am not in school or working), we have band practice. We've worked hard for years, almost 6 years now. We haven't done a lot of gig's, because we had many issues with a bassist or singer leaving here and there, and the bassists we brought in simply continued to be more undetermined than those previously in the band. However, we recently said we were going to be playing without a bassist for a while until we're ready to audition for someone. My guitar player and I have stuck together since the beginning.

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There's that out of the way. Now, my situation is awkward. I've always been a hard worker, but I've always wanted to go out and see what my band and I could do. We want to be avid participants in the music industry, however, if I leave college, I loose my coverage under my parents health insurance... and of course, I loose my education.

We understand the steep hill we will have to climb in order to get anywhere in the music industry. (We're all high-honer students here, not couch potato dreamboys who think they're going to be rockstars). So the idea has come up: Lets try the music thing for a year, and if nothing good comes out of it, we'll go to college and get our degree's. Now I don't know about the band, but I don't want to be poor my whole life. Leaving college would be a big jump for me, usually I wouldn't want to leave college, but then again, music has been a part of my family ever since I was born, and really see myself giving music a shot.

So I'm asking AT folks here. What would you do in my position:

A. Leave College, and do what I've always wanted to do.
B. Stay In College, and try the band at the same time. But if band starts to take off, leave college.
C. Become a non-full time student at UW Milwaukee, and work full time. In which I would still come to school two days a week, but replacing that time with a full-time job to pay for health insurance?
D. Go to a tech-school for 2 years, transfer from UWM and once I'm 21 (I'm 19), I'll have a steady, moderately well paying job, and a band. With my Associates Degree.
E. Another reasonable suggestion you may have. Leaving my band and just quitting to go into school is not an option. Music is my life, it's something I want to do and I don't want to give it up. I know a lot of people wont respect that and just post some stupid comment suggesting I quit. But please just respect it.

I'm lost here. My guitar player is talking about going to trade school if I stay in school, but that takes away from our band time. In order to succeed, we need to work insanely hard. But is that to say that we are still very young, and going to school perhaps at a CC and trade school and finishing by 21 is the smartest idea? Or perhaps there is another way?
 
I'm torn between 50+hr a week job\Wife and three children under 9\School


Go to school now, it only gets more difficult as time goes on. Concentrate on school, there will be time enough for everything else after.

/btw

I know and have known a bunch of bands, seriously, without exception they've lived a pretty miserable existence, scraping by from gig to gig. My advice to you is keep playing your music, but don't make it your life. Make a life and let your music come out of it.
 
Originally posted by: djheater
I'm torn between 50+hr a week job\Wife and three children under 9\School


Go to school now, it only gets more difficult as time goes on. Concentrate on school, there will be time enough for everything else after.

QFT

We've been over this before ColdKilla, stay in school, stick with your band on the weekend.

Oh, and work more than 3 hours a day on MWF
 
I would work longer than the 3 hours a day. But I'd probably need to get another job. Most parkers only come during the beginning of their workday. (Any suggestions for someone like me to find a good paying IT job for someone my age in college, uncertified? 😉)

Turin- I know I had a previous thread similar, however this time I'm asking for alternatives to my situation. Unlike previously, it was a large arguement about ether quiting or staying in school. This time, I'm open to many more ideas. If it starts turning into the old thread, I'll drop it and just let the thread die.
 
I heard from my advisor that most "4 year colleges" are actually 5 years now on average? Is this true? Unless I take summer classes + instead of required 12 credits.. taking 18+.
 
Originally posted by: Coldkilla
I heard from my advisor that most "4 year colleges" are actually 5 years now on average? Is this true? Unless I take summer classes + instead of required 12 credits.. taking 18+.

True. It's fvcking hard to get in to a class you want since most of them will be full by the time you get to register. This eally sets people back.
 
I took 21 credits to finish in 4 years.. gotta do what you gotta do.

Trust me, you don't want to be the adult in a class full of college kids in the future, finish NOW and then rock out \m/
 
If you don't screw around taking classes that you don't need, you can easily finish in 4 years. I did a ME degree in 4 years. Yes I had 15 hours coming in, but I also only took 12 hours both semesters senior year. That was a fun senior year. :laugh:
 
Originally posted by: Coldkilla
With 21 Credits like that.. do you think someone in my position could continue to have a job/band?

Depends on what the classes are. 21 credits for me would look like the following:

Differential Equations and Linear Algebra
Software Engineering
Advanced Systems Programming in C/Unix
Analysis of Algorithms
Artifical Intelligence
Game Theory
Elective

That'd be one hell of a workload, and would also require permission from the Dean of my college.
 
I'm weeding out my last english this semester thank god. Hmm, those class choices sound interesting. I might think about 18...Hmmm
 
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Coldkilla
With 21 Credits like that.. do you think someone in my position could continue to have a job/band?

Depends on what the classes are. 21 credits for me would look like the following:

Differential Equations and Linear Algebra
Software Engineering
Advanced Systems Programming in C/Unix
Analysis of Algorithms
Artifical Intelligence
Game Theory
Elective

That'd be one hell of a workload, and would also require permission from the Dean of my college.

21 hours in a science major makes baby jesus cry. I'm stretched very thin taking 12 hours + research + working 25 hours a week.
 
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Coldkilla
With 21 Credits like that.. do you think someone in my position could continue to have a job/band?

Depends on what the classes are. 21 credits for me would look like the following:

Differential Equations and Linear Algebra
Software Engineering
Advanced Systems Programming in C/Unix
Analysis of Algorithms
Artifical Intelligence
Game Theory
Elective

That'd be one hell of a workload, and would also require permission from the Dean of my college.

21 hours in a science major makes baby jesus cry. I'm stretched very thin taking 12 hours + research + working 25 hours a week.

Absolutely. You put in lots of extra work in any science major. Whether it's pre/post labs, working on projects, or anything else you have to do for the classes. It adds up to TONS of time outside of the classroom. I'm trying to get in good with a few professors in an attempt to do research work this summer with them or at Brookhaven National Laboratory.
 
Originally posted by: Coldkilla
By hours you mean classes? or credits I take it? So 4 classes, plus study, plus working?

Hour basically means credit hours. Each class is typically 3-4 "credit hours" or credits (in the semester system, quarter system is different), which would mean 3-4 classes.

A good rule of thumb for typical classes is that your credits is basically equal to the least number of hours you should be studying/doing work outside of the classroom. With upper level science courses expect that number to double at least, triple if you have a lot of projects.
 

usually i would say stay in school.... but from what you've written... i say - better to have tried and failed (JUST figure of speech!!) than always wonder what your dreams could've turned out to be considering your love for music.

perhaps you can take a leave of absence from school for about a year? focus all your efforts into music during that time. from what i remember, you should be able to reregister for school without any penalty (such as needing to go to a CC) if it's within a year, right?
 
Originally posted by: Caecus Veritas

usually i would say stay in school.... but from what you've written... i say - better to have tried and failed (JUST figure of speech!!) than always wonder what your dreams could've turned out to be considering your love for music.

perhaps you can take a leave of absence from school for about a year? focus all your efforts into music during that time. from what i remember, you should be able to reregister for school without any penalty (such as needing to go to a CC) if it's within a year, right?

His big problem is that he'll be dropped by his parents insurance. This is a HUGE issue because he may not be able to get back onto it, even if he goes back to school. He really needs to talk to his parents about the insurance situation.

In the best situation, he doesn't get sick and it won't be a problem. But say he slips or throws out his back carrying gear into a show, or something else happens. Doctor visits and hospitals are not cheap.
 

oh i see. OP, not to be probing or anything, but are you a healthy young male 😀 or one with certain medical conditions? is it just the issue of being included on the insurance?

i'm not familiar with the inside story so please bear with me... once you graduate in, what 2 to 4 years, are you still eligible to be on your parents insurance?

perhaps if it's just being included on your parents insurance for a couple of years, and you're healthy as a buck, maybe it's worth achieving what you really wanna do. but yeah, probably need to consult parents...
 
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