college football monday

[preslove]

Their kicker is all-conference this year and the team captain I believe. You should trust him to kick an extra point with the ball in the middle of the field. I agree though, try to score a TD on first down at least.

A touchdown run attempt is much more likely to lead to an injury or fumble than a fieldgoal.

 

[GotIssues]

Uh... the defensive coordinator molested at least one kid while on the job, and head coach & head of the athletics department covered up for a serial rapist. The "management of the team" had a lot to do with it.

So you are saying that 1 school's, 3 administrators, actions speak for the whole conference? In that case, every player in the SEC is obviously getting paid... oops, my mistake, that would be against NCAA rules, what I meant to say is that it's obvious that every player in the SEC's father is getting paid for their son going to school.

Vandy and Georgia are the only schools in the SEC that aren't abusing the scholarship system at the expense of the kids. Of course the SEC is going to do better when they can cut 20-30 of the recruiting misses in order to bring in new players. 90-ish scholarships over a 4 year period is about expected due to Juco players and natural attrition. The typical 110+ that an SEC team signs is not. The only people that isn't plainly obvious to are those with an SEC "edumacashun."

If the NCAA decides to provide protection for the student-athletes it rides so hard to multi-billion dollar contracts, the SEC teams will come plummeting back to earth and you'll see a dark age in SEC football that will last as long as their current golden age. The problem with becoming addicted to such practices for so long is that you forget how to operate without those advantages. As I said before, if/when it happens, Richt will be in a prime position to take advantage, if he hasn't been run out of town by then.

 

[PottedMeat]

 

[SP33Demon]

Maybe Michigan can salvage the B1G's absolutely pathetic showing in their bowls so far.

 

[BergeLSU]

Vandy and Georgia are the only schools in the SEC that aren't abusing the scholarship system at the expense of the kids. Of course the SEC is going to do better when they can cut 20-30 of the recruiting misses in order to bring in new players. 90-ish scholarships over a 4 year period is about expected due to Juco players and natural attrition. The typical 110+ that an SEC team signs is not. The only people that isn't plainly obvious to are those with an SEC "edumacashun."

If the NCAA decides to provide protection for the student-athletes it rides so hard to multi-billion dollar contracts, the SEC teams will come plummeting back to earth and you'll see a dark age in SEC football that will last as long as their current golden age. The problem with becoming addicted to such practices for so long is that you forget how to operate without those advantages. As I said before, if/when it happens, Richt will be in a prime position to take advantage, if he hasn't been run out of town by then.

You are really drinking the "SEC is evil" Koolade, aren't you?

 

[GotIssues]

You are really drinking the "SEC is evil" Koolade, aren't you?

You obviously are one of those SEC edumacashun types. Your name and cluelessness gives it away.

The SEC doesn't have their priorities right. They abuse the system to take advantage of kids, use them up, and throw them away. I forget which school (pretty sure it was LSU) offered a kid a scholarship, the kid got to campus, attended classes for THREE DAYS, and the coach called him and said "Oops, you don't have a scholarship, we gave it to someone else. You can either pay your way or go on your way." SEC has a history of rule breaking. There is a reason that the schools with the most NCAA infractions are nearly all SEC schools - winning is priority #1, destroying the lives of a handful of kids per school year is collateral damage.

If you are dumb enough to think that "cutting" 20-30 players and replacing them with new recruits isn't a huge advantage, then you are drinking the kool-aid that the SEC is superior because of no other reason than they are better.

Is the SEC the best conference in the country right now? Absolutely. However, they got their through a whole lot of shady tactics that you can't even pretend aren't shady.

 

[Fingolfin269]

I usually stop listening to conversations about college football when people bring up the education discussion. What's the point. Everyone is deluding themselves if they really think any administration cares more about the player's quality of education versus the amount of money they rake in due to the football program's success.

You can call out SEC 'edumucashun' all you want but the bottom line is that the simple minds of the SEC seem to be the ones seeing the big picture here.

 

[Tim]

When oversigning rules reign in the rest of the SEC, it'll be Richt who will still be able to win. The rest of the coaches won't know what to do when they have to play by the same rules the rest of CFB is playing by.

Who am I kidding, the SEC will find some other rules to bend/break.

I see you're jealousy and raise you 6 national titles (in a row). Yep, umad.

 

[GotIssues]

I usually stop listening to conversations about college football when people bring up the education discussion. What's the point. Everyone is deluding themselves if they really think any administration cares more about the player's quality of education versus the amount of money they rake in due to the football program's success.

You can call out SEC 'edumucashun' all you want but the bottom line is that the simple minds of the SEC seem to be the ones seeing the big picture here.

That's interesting, because the Pac12 and BigTen make more money per school from football than the SEC does AND they have vastly superior academics.

Unless your only priority is winning, SEC is doing it wrong. Players are not the used kleenex SEC schools seem to think they are.

 

[GotIssues]

I see you're jealousy and raise you 6 national titles (in a row). Yep, umad.

End results don't justify the means.

You can pretend everyone that has a problem with treating HS kids as disposible is merely jealous, but that just shows you are too dumb to come up with a rational argument as to why what the SEC is doing is ethical in any way.

 

[Tim]

End results don't justify the means.

You can pretend everyone that has a problem with treating HS kids as disposible is merely jealous, but that just shows you are too dumb to come up with a rational argument as to why what the SEC is doing is ethical in any way.

Here's my rational argument. You're a fool, and a tool if you think the other major college FB programs aren't all running the rat race the same way. You want to blame something, blame the system, not the ones who know how to play the system.

Now get off your high horse before I start posting facts and links to knock your stupid arse down.

 

[cronos]

Since we got sidetracked with the mud slinging, let's get back to the main issue that GotIssues brought up (heh!). I'm personally just wondering whether the following statement of his is true or not:

Vandy and Georgia are the only schools in the SEC that aren't abusing the scholarship system at the expense of the kids. Of course the SEC is going to do better when they can cut 20-30 of the recruiting misses in order to bring in new players. 90-ish scholarships over a 4 year period is about expected due to Juco players and natural attrition. The typical 110+ that an SEC team signs is not.

My question is for the SEC guys, of course. Yes or no answer is the only thing I need from you guys. No explanation is needed.

 

[Fingolfin269]

That's interesting, because the Pac12 and BigTen make more money per school from football than the SEC does AND they have vastly superior academics.

Unless your only priority is winning, SEC is doing it wrong. Players are not the used kleenex SEC schools seem to think they are.

Actually they're not doing it wrong... unless you think that by tightening up their standards and probably losing more games would generate them more revenue somehow?

 

[Fingolfin269]

Since we got sidetracked with the mud slinging, let's get back to the main issue that GotIssues brought up (heh!). I'm personally just wondering whether the following statement of his is true or not:



My question is for the SEC guys, of course. Yes or no answer is the only thing I need from you guys. No explanation is needed.

I've heard of the issue he's referring to but thought it was limited to a few schools. I personally think it's ridiculous to offer someone a scholarship then pull it because you find someone better than that person. That's generally speaking of course since I have no idea how many schools do it and if it's really 110+ and if only the SEC is guilty.

 

[GotIssues]

Here's my rational argument. You're a fool, and a tool if you think the other major college FB programs aren't all running the rat race the same way. You want to blame something, blame the system, not the ones who know how to play the system.

Your attempt at a rational argument is pure and utter fail. Scholarship numbers are documented and known.

Typical SEC fanboy retardation.

Now get off your high horse before I start posting facts and links to knock your stupid arse down.

Post the links. I dare you.

 

[Tim]

Yes or no.

No.

 

[BergeLSU]

You obviously are one of those SEC edumacashun types. Your name and cluelessness gives it away.

The SEC doesn't have their priorities right. They abuse the system to take advantage of kids, use them up, and throw them away. I forget which school (pretty sure it was LSU) offered a kid a scholarship, the kid got to campus, attended classes for THREE DAYS, and the coach called him and said "Oops, you don't have a scholarship, we gave it to someone else. You can either pay your way or go on your way." SEC has a history of rule breaking. There is a reason that the schools with the most NCAA infractions are nearly all SEC schools - winning is priority #1, destroying the lives of a handful of kids per school year is collateral damage.

If you are dumb enough to think that "cutting" 20-30 players and replacing them with new recruits isn't a huge advantage, then you are drinking the kool-aid that the SEC is superior because of no other reason than they are better.

Is the SEC the best conference in the country right now? Absolutely. However, they got their through a whole lot of shady tactics that you can't even pretend aren't shady.

I'm sure you think that all Duke athletes have the 33 or higher ACT scores needed to attend there.

 

[cronos]

No.

So Vandy and Georgia do it too?

(sorry, I can't help it. thanks for the answer )

 

[Tim]

Your attempt at a rational argument is pure and utter fail. Scholarship numbers are documented and known.

Typical SEC fanboy retardation.



Post the links. I dare you.

Too fucking easy.

Let's count! (just for 2011, you can look up other years yourself, prick)

http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/teamrank/2011/all/all

How many schools from conferences other than the SEC recruited more than 25 players?

Now shut the hell up and move on with your crybaby arse.



Edit: "Fuck tha police comin straight from the underground" and IDGAFS.

 

[GotIssues]

Actually they're not doing it wrong... unless you think that by tightening up their standards and probably losing more games would generate them more revenue somehow?

TV contracts for the Pac12 and BigTen are larger than the SECs. Non-TV revenue would be interesting to see and might make it a wash.

There are various sources on what schools made from football, but it's generally 2 years old (pre-dates current Pac12 contract).

 

[GotIssues]

Too fucking easy.

Let's count! (just for 2011, you can look up other years yourself, prick)

http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/teamrank/2011/all/all

How many schools from conferences other than the SEC recruited more than 25 players?

Now shut the hell up and move on with your crybaby arse.

www.oversigning.com

Go fuck yourself, you brainless zombie dipshit. 113 for your ethically challenged Tide.

But hey, "Derpa derp, everyone is jealous!"

You should also look into WHO they are signing. Jucos matter in scholarships.

Your precious Tide oversigned by 9 players last year alone. You must be proud. SEC's motto: If you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'.

EDIT: Fun fact - Alabama football, along with 17 other sports, is on probation until June 12, 2012.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation...tion#Division_I-FBS_institutions_on_probation

Ditto. (see post 69) -Admin DrPizza

 

[BergeLSU]

www.oversigning.com

Go fuck yourself, you brainless zombie dipshit. 113 for your ethically challenged Tide.

But hey, "Derpa derp, everyone is jealous!"

You should also look into WHO they are signing. Jucos matter.

I knew that sham of a website was going to show up here.

 

[ElFenix]

Here's my rational argument. You're a fool, and a tool if you think the other major college FB programs aren't all running the rat race the same way. You want to blame something, blame the system, not the ones who know how to play the system.

Now get off your high horse before I start posting facts and links to knock your stupid arse down.

others are doing it but the SEC is the worst about it
http://oversigning.com/testing/index.php/recruiting-numbers/

LSU is borderline about the practice, auburn is flat abusive.

 

[Tim]

www.oversigning.com

Go fuck yourself, you brainless zombie dipshit. 113 for your ethically challenged Tide.

But hey, "Derpa derp, everyone is jealous!"

So you post a link to a known SEC bashing website (which I didn't even bother to click), nice comeback to the actual facts that I posted.

Here's another fact, Louisiana has the most NFL players per capita in the entire nation. Maybe athletes are just superior in the south?

 

[GotIssues]

I'm sure you think that all Duke athletes have the 33 or higher ACT scores needed to attend there.

Who said that? Athletes get special treatment at all school. However, the issue at hand isn't the ACT scores of athletes, but in the FACT that SEC schools throw them away like used Kleenex the second they aren't useful anymore.

Why don't you stick to the topic at hand, rather than trying to deflect.