College Admission quotas

her209

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Should colleges/universities be allowed to have a quota on the number of international students that it accepts per year?
 

SaturnX

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No, their prime funding comes from the local/federal governments to instruct local people / people from the country who pay to fund these institutions. I don't care if Int'l students pay 2, or even 3 times more than local students, local students support the institution.

--Mark
 

notfred

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I don't think I can say "yes" to this, but "no" to AA without being a hypocrite, can I?

Edit: I was thinking the OP meant a maximum number of international students, but apparently he means a minumum number, so I guess my statement doesn't count.
 

dr150

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I have a problem with foreign (primarily Asian) grad school students teaching lab/seminars.

Oftentimes, they can't speak the friggin' language! Shows you how USELESS the TOEFL exam is!
 

PowerMacG5

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Originally posted by: dr150
I have a problem with foreign (primarily Asian) grad school students teaching lab/seminars.

Oftentimes, they can't speak the friggin' language! Shows you how USELESS the TOEFL exam is!

A man of my own beliefs. I had two FOB's as my chem TA's, and I couldn't understand a word they said, and there slides were even poor English.
 

Mo0o

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Originally posted by: PowerMacG5
Originally posted by: dr150
I have a problem with foreign (primarily Asian) grad school students teaching lab/seminars.

Oftentimes, they can't speak the friggin' language! Shows you how USELESS the TOEFL exam is!

A man of my own beliefs. I had two FOB's as my chem TA's, and I couldn't understand a word they said, and there slides were even poor English.

That's because no one else wants to teach them. The FOBs do it because they're poor as hell and they just immigrated here with no financial support from the family.
 

her209

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Originally posted by: notfred
I don't think I can say "yes" to this, but "no" to AA without being a hypocrite, can I?

Edit: I was thinking the OP meant a maximum number of international students, but apparently he means a minumum number, so I guess my statement doesn't count.
No, I meant maximum.
 

her209

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Originally posted by: SaturnX
No, their prime funding comes from the local/federal governments to instruct local people / people from the country who pay to fund these institutions. I don't care if Int'l students pay 2, or even 3 times more than local students, local students support the institution.

--Mark
What about private colleges/universities?
 

PoPPeR

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Originally posted by: dr150
I have a problem with foreign (primarily Asian) grad school students teaching lab/seminars.

Oftentimes, they can't speak the friggin' language! Shows you how USELESS the TOEFL exam is!
as much as I hate to admit it, it's true. All the math tutors at my community college's math lab spoke very poor English. Genius's at math, but if you can't understand them it's hard to learn.

 

notfred

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Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: notfred
I don't think I can say "yes" to this, but "no" to AA without being a hypocrite, can I?

Edit: I was thinking the OP meant a maximum number of international students, but apparently he means a minumum number, so I guess my statement doesn't count.
No, I meant maximum.

In that case, I don't see how I can say both "the color of your skin doesn't matter" and, "the country you were born in does matter".
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: SaturnX
No, their prime funding comes from the local/federal governments to instruct local people / people from the country who pay to fund these institutions. I don't care if Int'l students pay 2, or even 3 times more than local students, local students support the institution.

--Mark

non-residents usually pay substantially higher tuition... so it's not like they're living off the residents
 

Sahakiel

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Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: PowerMacG5
Originally posted by: dr150
I have a problem with foreign (primarily Asian) grad school students teaching lab/seminars.

Oftentimes, they can't speak the friggin' language! Shows you how USELESS the TOEFL exam is!

A man of my own beliefs. I had two FOB's as my chem TA's, and I couldn't understand a word they said, and there slides were even poor English.

That's because no one else wants to teach them. The FOBs do it because they're poor as hell and they just immigrated here with no financial support from the family.


If I remember correctly, the percentage of US-born undergraduates who even consider pursuing a post-graduate degree keeps dropping every year. Assuming that's true, the rest is just an exercise in probability.
 

minendo

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Yes. With a quota of zero I no longer have to worry about the influx of terrible drivers, weird names that no one can pronounce, and listening to broken English.
 

cchen

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Originally posted by: PowerMacG5
Originally posted by: dr150
I have a problem with foreign (primarily Asian) grad school students teaching lab/seminars.

Oftentimes, they can't speak the friggin' language! Shows you how USELESS the TOEFL exam is!

A man of my own beliefs. I had two FOB's as my chem TA's, and I couldn't understand a word they said, and there slides were even poor English.

Your use of the English language isn't so great either bub....
 

SaturnX

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Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: SaturnX
No, their prime funding comes from the local/federal governments to instruct local people / people from the country who pay to fund these institutions. I don't care if Int'l students pay 2, or even 3 times more than local students, local students support the institution.

--Mark
What about private colleges/universities?


Private institutions can do whatever they want, but at least in Canada, just about all post-secondary instituions are publicly funded.

And in regards to them paying higher tuition, I know that, in comparison, I pay $8,000, for 4 months of school, Int'l students pay $12,000, the institution still recieves a LARGE portion of funding from the government, ie: tax payers.

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against Int'l students, I just don't believe any school should have a quota for them.

--Mark