Coleman appeals Senate race at Minn. high court

[Lemon law]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: GooeyGUI

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Coleman's ego is probably terribly hurt that he's going to lose to a comedian. Now he wants to be the bigger joke.

That may be true, but don't sell Franken short. He does have a degree from Harvard and he did host Air America for a long time.

If we are going to judge Franken by the success of Air America we are in big trouble.

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I have to somewhat blame Moonbean for bringing up the side issue of competence, even if Franken is superbly qualified, not only because he is Harvard educated, but because he majored in Political Science.

But still its a side issue, election are not decided by the competence issue, elections are decided by who gets the most votes. In theory, voters do not vote for incompetent candidates, but given some of the winners of some elections, we end up with some real incompetent idiots on both the democratic and Republican sides.

But I still have to ask Fear No Evil, do you really think Rush Limbaugh should run for political office? After all, Rush has made a success of himself on talk radio and therefore should be more qualified than Franken. Is that what you are trying to imply?

Because then we bring up the toxicity factor, Limbaugh may be loved by a small minority but is hated by a larger majority.

 

[Moonbeam]

I have to somewhat blame Moonbean for bringing up the side issue of competence

At the point I posted the thread had turned to the issue of why Coleman persists with his legal challenge. I simply suggested one possible reason, that he is an egotist with a bruised ego. No disparagement of Frankin was intended or implied, in my opinion, because I was speaking hypothetically through Coleman's eyes. I am fine with Franken and delighted a comedian won.

 

[Lemon law]

I agree with your reasoning moonbeam, but as soon as we allow ourselves to be distracted by non valid side issues, it takes a number of rebuttals to stick the nuts back into the crackerjack boxes. The point being, only the legitimate raw number of votes for each candidate matters in this dispute. Whomever has the most votes wins, regardless of the size of the plurality or some side issue red herrings possibly biased viewpoints on who is the most competent.

And the only matter still in dispute in this Minnesota election is which set of already deemed illegitimate for other reasons ballots should be also be counted. Because the only remaining Coleman hope is for these already regarded as illegitimate set of ballots to be counted with no guarantee that if the courts rule that these ballots should be counted, that it will even benefit Coleman.

And until the courts rule, Minnesota lacks one of its Senators.

And now its doubly obvious that Coleman is stalling and the courts need to get off their dead asses and rule. If you do the math, the set of remaining disputed ballots is so small, that they would almost all have to be Coleman votes, something that is very very very low probability. Especially when we consider the last time Coleman got his way, the Franken lead increased.

 

[BoomerD]

MUCH better solution...kill them both, let Minnesotans revote.

 

[WHAMPOM]

Originally posted by: BoomerD
MUCH better solution...kill them both, let Minnesotans revote.

It just don't work that way, the independent with 17% of the vote wins.

 

[sportage]

MN can revote ONLY if the country can revote 2000 presidential. :thumbsup:

 

[eits]

jesus christ, this motherfucker needs to give it up already...

 

[trenchfoot]

I guess the only upside to all of this is that Amy Klobuchar's Dem vote is not being nulled by Coleman for all the time he is out of office.

 

[Lemon law]

There is no denying the tweaker2 point of, " I guess the only upside to all of this is that 's Dem vote is not being nulled by Coleman for all the time he is out of office."

Because at this point in time, as long as Franken is not seated, the GOP maintains at least a theoretical filibuster. But a desirable outcome for the GOP does not morally justify breaking election laws or endless stalling. Nor does the Specter defection or Amy Klobuchar as irrelevant side issues, change anything at all about a disputed election in Minnesota between Coleman and Franken. The GOP needs to get over it, the votes are fairly counted and Coleman came out short and thus cannot win. Endless stalling will not change the outcome .