Cold-packs plus Aluminum powder = blasting slurry?

imported_Tick

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Cold packs contain Ammonium Nitrate and Water. Blasting slurry can be made from aluminum powder and water, with ammonium nitrate as a hydrogen gas consumer. So, assuming you could remove the excess water from the cold pack, which you could do with evaporation, you could combine it with said aluminum powder and make an explosive, couldn't you?
 

imported_Tick

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Originally posted by: BrownTown
umm, if you want to make explosives there are much easier ways.

True. It was just an idea. Also, I was thinking that it would be makeable in an aircraft bathroom. One of these days coldpacks will be aircraft contraband.
 

Born2bwire

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Personally, if you already have the aluminum, then I would thing a quick batch of thermite would be easier.
 

herm0016

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thermite is fun....... i love college chem stores and people with accounts......
 

Braznor

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I once made a glass bottle blow skyhigh by filling half of it with sulphuric acid and topping it with flakes from shredded aluminium foils.
 

wwswimming

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when i was a kid we lived in Athens Greece. my Dad worked for the UN,
they have a lot of pine trees in Northern Greece, he was helping build
a pulp & paper mill. my Dad was a chemical engineer.

my older brother decided to "learn about explosives".

you can buy anything you want at the Athens Flea Market. i got caught
once shoplifting too. "god Damn American Boy", the guy said. he was
right. on the way home we gave all our shop-lifted stuff to a woman
who was begging at the train station. 2 american boys stealing from
greek shop-keepers & giving to the poor. how ... inspiring. NOT.

anyway, on a few other shopping trips my brother had a shopping
list that had things like "perchlorate" on it. his room was next to
mine. i got the closet that year.

most of my brother's stuff worked. he made little fire-crackers,
nothing bigger than an M-80. you'd think he would have learned,
he had a scar on his face from playing with burning plastic at a
younger age.

well, that was 1970-1971. my brother is now a VP for a large
financial institution. i don't think he puts the "perchlorate" stuff
on his resume.

anyway, yes it's a good way to learn about physics and chemistry
and stuff, but just be F*CKING CAREFUL if you're playing with
this stuff.
 
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Originally posted by: wwswimming
when i was a kid we lived in Athens Greece. my Dad worked for the UN,
they have a lot of pine trees in Northern Greece, he was helping build
a pulp & paper mill. my Dad was a chemical engineer.

my older brother decided to "learn about explosives".

you can buy anything you want at the Athens Flea Market. i got caught
once shoplifting too. "god Damn American Boy", the guy said. he was
right. on the way home we gave all our shop-lifted stuff to a woman
who was begging at the train station. 2 american boys stealing from
greek shop-keepers & giving to the poor. how ... inspiring. NOT.

anyway, on a few other shopping trips my brother had a shopping
list that had things like "perchlorate" on it. his room was next to
mine. i got the closet that year.
most of my brother's stuff worked. he made little fire-crackers,
nothing bigger than an M-80. you'd think he would have learned,
he had a scar on his face from playing with burning plastic at a
younger age.

well, that was 1970-1971. my brother is now a VP for a large
financial institution. i don't think he puts the "perchlorate" stuff
on his resume.

anyway, yes it's a good way to learn about physics and chemistry
and stuff, but just be F*CKING CAREFUL if you're playing with
this stuff.

Wow, reading that was a waste of my time. I was expecting a punch line....something happened...you blew up your closet....etc....but.....nothing.....
 
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Originally posted by: Tick
Originally posted by: BrownTown
umm, if you want to make explosives there are much easier ways.

True. It was just an idea. Also, I was thinking that it would be makeable in an aircraft bathroom. One of these days coldpacks will be aircraft contraband.


Only terrorists think about such things. Expect a Homeland Security agent visitation in 5....4....3....


;)
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: soccerballtux
Originally posted by: Tick
Originally posted by: BrownTown
umm, if you want to make explosives there are much easier ways.

True. It was just an idea. Also, I was thinking that it would be makeable in an aircraft bathroom. One of these days coldpacks will be aircraft contraband.


Only terrorists think about such things. Expect a Homeland Security agent visitation in 5....4....3....


;)
:)
Oh please, I've mused that if hijackers wanted to cause the most damage possible, they should have tried to hit the base of the Trade Center. Sideways fall = much larger damage footprint. *
* - conspiracy theories about controlled demolition nonwithstanding. Vent rage/agreement into the relevant thread already in Off Topic.


Originally posted by: wwswimming

at this rate they'll be having a special Overclocking section at Guantanamo.

At least some members of the forums will finally get some real human interaction.







whistling nonchalantly
 

TitanDiddly

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It'd be much easier to get the ammonium nitrate in prill form as a fertilizer, and mix thoroughly with 5% diesel to make ANFO. IIRC, ANFO is 85%+ of the blasting agent used.
 

DrPizza

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Once the ammonium nitrate mixes with water, you're not going to recover it from simple evaporation.

There are better and easier to make explosives... Most intelligent people know better than to screw around doing so.
 

imported_Tick

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
Once the ammonium nitrate mixes with water, you're not going to recover it from simple evaporation.

There are better and easier to make explosives... Most intelligent people know better than to screw around doing so.

Yes, I KNOW thier are easier ways to make explosives. If I really wanted to make an explosive, I'd make Kinepak, ammonium nitrate and nitromethane. But that's about $80 a kilo to make.
 

wwswimming

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i remember about 20 years ago, some builder in Marin County Calif. was building
a large McMansion type home. over the weekend somebody hooked up a tank
of propane and let it blow into the house. don't remember what the ignition
source was. anyway, it blew sky high. kind of totalled it.

left people thinking, God, he must have pissed off one of his sub-contractors.
but who knows.

this was way before the WTC attack in 1993, or any of the other incidents
that got people thinking about terrorism on American soil.

who knows, maybe it was a frat initiation for Sonoma State ?
 

imported_Phil

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Originally posted by: wwswimming

i remember about 20 years ago, some builder in Marin County Calif. was building
a large McMansion type home. over the weekend somebody hooked up a tank
of propane and let it blow into the house. don't remember what the ignition
source was. anyway, it blew sky high. kind of totalled it.

left people thinking, God, he must have pissed off one of his sub-contractors.
but who knows.

this was way before the WTC attack in 1993, or any of the other incidents
that got people thinking about terrorism on American soil.

who knows, maybe it was a frat initiation for Sonoma State ?

You've done it again. A story that doesn't go anywhere.
 

randay

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Originally posted by: Tick
Originally posted by: DrPizza
Once the ammonium nitrate mixes with water, you're not going to recover it from simple evaporation.

There are better and easier to make explosives... Most intelligent people know better than to screw around doing so.

Yes, I KNOW thier are easier ways to make explosives. If I really wanted to make an explosive, I'd make Kinepak, ammonium nitrate and nitromethane. But that's about $80 a kilo to make.

I find it disturbing, not that you know how to make explosives, but that you know how much it costs per kilo to make. You obviously actually make explosives, or you just want people to think you do. Whichever the case, you are pretty dumb.

 

patentman

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Originally posted by: Tick
Cold packs contain Ammonium Nitrate and Water. Blasting slurry can be made from aluminum powder and water, with ammonium nitrate as a hydrogen gas consumer. So, assuming you could remove the excess water from the cold pack, which you could do with evaporation, you could combine it with said aluminum powder and make an explosive, couldn't you?

Why don't you just get a big block of sodium or lithium metal, squeeze it really tight in your hand (don;t let go, thats the secret!), and then dunk the hand clenching the metal into a big beaker of water. Like anyone in their right mind is going to tell you how to potentially make an explosive that could potentially be made in an airplane bathroom. What kind of a dumbass are you?