Cold Heat Soldering tool $12.99 after IR at Costco B&M

mfbf

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I know some may frown upon the cold heat soldering tool but I think it has some merit from the reviews I have read. It might not replace a traditional soldering iron but for the price and included accessories: the easy wire stripper/cutter, spool of solder, four AA batteries, a carrying case and the tool, it seems like a decent price to me.

I will have to test this out on my guitars when I replace some pickups.

 

funboy6942

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I have this and tell you what it kicks ass. It will melt all solder and it gets hot right away as advertised. Cannot live without it and about to use it again :D
 

flot

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I bought one of these at RS for $25 and returned it, absolutely destroyed, 2 hours later. I was trying to solder speaker wire onto a speaker terminal, and it had no ability whatsoever to stand up to this simple task. While the tip of the terminal never got hot, the rest of it (including the batteries) got so hot the plastic case started to melt. I was not amused.

A 20w soldering iron ($6.99) did the job in 30 seconds.

Edit: LOL at funboy's opposite reaction. Don't know what to tell you, I had zero luck with this thing.
 

funboy6942

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Originally posted by: flot
I bought one of these at RS for $25 and returned it, absolutely destroyed, 2 hours later. I was trying to solder speaker wire onto a speaker terminal, and it had no ability whatsoever to stand up to this simple task. While the tip of the terminal never got hot, the rest of it (including the batteries) got so hot the plastic case started to melt. I was not amused.

A 20w soldering iron ($6.99) did the job in 30 seconds.

Edit: LOL at funboy's opposite reaction. Don't know what to tell you, I had zero luck with this thing.

WOW man I have used mine to resolder pieces of a mother board, totaly redid a main board on my dvd player when it droped and had to retrace over 20 lines, I have done stereo wire, and even did some solderign on a digital camera with it and havnet had any trouble at all. Maybe your was just defective because the tip of mine get extreamly hot once it makes contact with metal. I have a soldering gun, Iron, and now this and truthfully I will use this before the other ones first especially my iron.
 

mfbf

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Well the soldering iron seemed to work alright but I tried the wire strippers and they broke in 5 sec. I tried to strip one piece of 12 gauge wire and a piece fell out and they no longer work. I will see if they will replace them or back to costco for an exchange.
 

chinkgai

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i touched the tip on the display model in a store with my finger and it (the tip, not my finger) broke off almost imediately
 

fargus

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Looks like a common theme here- save your $. My buddy and I tried one, tip broke off first time used and flew across the room. Don't like the idea of not being able to heat the wire properly to solder anyway, cold joints are weak links.
 

Derektm

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Originally posted by: fargus
Looks like a common theme here- save your $. My buddy and I tried one, tip broke off first time used and flew across the room. Don't like the idea of not being able to heat the wire properly to solder anyway, cold joints are weak links.

If it can fly across the room, it could fly in your eye and put your freaking eye out. Not for me.
 

csundar

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i have this (got it for free from RS). if you subscribe to Make (makezine.com) there's a free coupon in the cover if you buy $30 in tools/diagnostic equipment (easy enough). i love it. had a few issues getting used to using it but now that i've done a little work with it i think that it is great. use it all the time.
 

rivan

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Yeah - I picked one up from Costco before the IR deal, but am completely unimpressed with it's performance. The heat produced is too localized for effective soldering except in the smallest of applications, where it *may* perform.

My thoughts echo flot's - my $10, 15 year old weller does a far superior job.
 

ttown

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quite the range in experience!

Let me ask... Is this good for fine circuit-board soldering?

It sounds like it's not up for big-time soldering... but what about very small/fine circuit-board stuff?
I particularly ask those (above) that rated it as bad or fragile.

thanks
 

ondarkness

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The manual that no one reads says do NOT (be a doofus) and touch the tip with force.
It's not solid like traditional irons. I have it, and its awesome. I also saw that Radio Shack has interchangable tips; smaller, and whatnot.

And because it's costco.. why wouldn't you buy it??
 

funboy6942

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Originally posted by: ttown
quite the range in experience!

Let me ask... Is this good for fine circuit-board soldering?

It sounds like it's not up for big-time soldering... but what about very small/fine circuit-board stuff?
I particularly ask those (above) that rated it as bad or fragile.

thanks

Like I said above that is what I use mine for and it heats up that solder very quickly. With my gun I have to wait seconds but not with this thing. Alsmost as soon as it touches it melts. But like above the tip is very fragile. Light touch is all it needs. I didnt knwo about the inter changable tips. I bought mine at radio shack so I will have to look into that.
 

flot

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Originally posted by: ttown
Let me ask... Is this good for fine circuit-board soldering?

So, just a note here, I think the manual might have actually cautioned against the above. It works by upping the 6v battery voltage to 6 bazillion volts (*) - the tip is split in half, and it heats up because you complete the circuit when you touch both halves of the tip to solder. The downside here is that in theory you could have the 6 bazillion volts going through whatever you are trying to solder and could damage circuitry. I'm not saying it happens in pratice, but definitely could, especially if you accidentally touched the two halves of the tip to different legs of a circuit.

(*) - not actual figure
 

ttown

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Originally posted by: flot
Originally posted by: ttown
Let me ask... Is this good for fine circuit-board soldering?

So, just a note here, I think the manual might have actually cautioned against the above. It works by upping the 6v battery voltage to 6 bazillion volts (*) - the tip is split in half, and it heats up because you complete the circuit when you touch both halves of the tip to solder. The downside here is that in theory you could have the 6 bazillion volts going through whatever you are trying to solder and could damage circuitry. I'm not saying it happens in pratice, but definitely could, especially if you accidentally touched the two halves of the tip to different legs of a circuit.

(*) - not actual figure
Very good point about the potential to arc across IC pins.

I've decided to go with the traditional pen/gun iron. What is the "recommended" wattage if my intent is to use it for minor circuit-board projects? A visit to radio-shack shows me there is everything from 15 to 100+ Watt, and a similarly wide range in price ~$5 - $50.
Asking the RS employee gets me a blank stare and "uh... well the $50 one is better"
 

dud

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Got one for Christmas 2004. Tried to use it 2-3 times. HORRIBLE experience with it. Ineffective at just about any job. Paid $20, now its $12.99. That should tell you something.
 

Xterraguy

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Not impressed with mine yet, then again, I'm pretty lousy with convention irons too.

The free strippers were a joke, they broke the first time I used them.
 

Flatbroke

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I've decided to go with the traditional pen/gun iron. What is the "recommended" wattage if my intent is to use it for minor circuit-board projects? A visit to radio-shack shows me there is everything from 15 to 100+ Watt, and a similarly wide range in price ~$5 - $50.

33 or 35W is max for MB and circuit boards and some speaker wire soldering. Could go as low as 20W if MB only, but would have more trouble using 20W on speaker wire jobs, than a 33W. With 33W, you will be able to solder wires and work on replacing Caps, diodes, transistors, etc. and MB work, IF you dont leave iron tip to the component too long. Get a chisel tip and a solder sucker, the spring loaded vaccum type, if you are going to remove any component from circuit board or MB. The solder remover braided wick will not work, unless it says "pre flux'ed, hard for novice to work with anyway. Dont expect to solder two 20 penny nails with a 33W iron, or #2 house wiring to a screw, not enought wattage and heat. However 33W will let you get into to heat, remove, or solder electronic components and 22 to 18 gauge speaker wires. When working with electronic components, Caps, transistors, doides, ect, heat is their enemy, so get in, make a good solder joint and get the heat away quick.

The KEY to a good solder joint or connection, is that solder flows toward the heat.
You do this, in this order.
1.Plug in iron (you must feed solder onto a new tip until it is 100% coated, and then wipe it clean, dragging it over a wet sponge, the first time you heat a new tip, just the first time only, will keep tip from oxidizing over the years)
2.wet an old sponge
3.when iron is hot, wipe off old 'gunk' on wet sponge, tin the iron tip with a little bit of solder, (60/40 resin core, .050 or .062" is ok, DO NOT use solid core or plumbers solder, aka acid core) it should have SMALL blob on tip.
4. place the iron on one side of the component leg, solder wet tip touching the leg and the circuit pad, and have the 12" piece of solder off the roll, so close to iron that you can very quickly get solder in there too. remember solder goes to heat, so touch the iron tip 1/2 to 1 sec first, then solder. ALWAYS.
5. touch solder to the place that iron, pad and leg meet. watch for flowing of solder into little smooth puddle, take off solder, and then iron, not much more than sec passes between solder off and iron off. Slide iron up component leg when removing. DO NOT blow on connection to cool it. DO dodge the smoke. connection should be smooth and shiny. If its lumpy and gray, then you didnt use enought heat, just touch again with tinned hot iron until solder flows and is is shinny when cool.
6. cut off leg of component, repeat on other legs if neccessary, give the component time to cool between soldering legs if you can.

If soldering 2 wires, then no reason to be so careful about heat, but put tinned iron on one side touch solder to iron/wire meeting place at same time, and take off solder and then iron. As you are feeding solder into wire, you will see solder wick its way into and around strands of wire, and make them all one. Some solder and resin flux will drop off, be ready. Dont melt the insulation or (ins.), as I will call it.

One thing you can do with small gauge strand wire, burn off the insulation with the chisel tip, most wire insolation is vinyl, (cant burn off teflon ins.), just hold the cut wire end, use the tip to melt the ins. and then pull the insulation off. It leaves a little melted ins. up from bare wire, but no chance of nicking or cutting small wire strands like if you use knive or side cutters etc. If you dont pull ins. end all the way off at first, works good to spin it a little to twist strands before pulling it all the way off. Pre solder the bare twisted wire ends of both wires, by cleaning tip on sponge, wetting tip with solder, touch iron to wire end, feed solder into iron/wire spot, watch it flow, dont melt the ins. Then very little extra solder needed to solder the two tinned wires together.

Generally soldering guns are way too hot to use on MB's and circuit boards. Plus, they get way too hot too quick. People have used them for that, but besides the tip being too big at times, you can fry components from the heat.

Jeeze I wrote too much.
 

Bill Kunert

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One of the basic tenets in proper soldering is to heat the work not the solder. This thing heats by passing a fairly high current between the two poles of the tip when against something electrically conductive so I would assume the battery voltage is stepped down to provide sufficient current to heat the solder. Every ad I've seen has the solder between the tip and the work to be soldered. That's a basic no no. I'll stick with a normal fine tipped iron for fine work. I don't think I'd mess around on a mother board with one of these.

Regards
Bill
 

bman46

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I dont know a good soldering iron from a bad one, all I can say is the product LOOKS very kool and inovative.
 

Yo2

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Did not work for me on simple wires - did not heat them enough to melt the solder. May work on circuit boards though, as they are flat and if there is sloder on them already, it may heat it up enough to re-do poor connections. All in all I'll stick with a traditional Weller though :)