(COLD) boot problems with Seagate S-ATA + Shuttle SB75G2

[CronikNL]

Hi all!

Well, first off, I'm extremely pleased with my new setup.

Shuttle SB75G2
Intel 2.6 HT
TwinMos 2*512MB
Sapphire ATI Radeon 9600 Pro
Plextor 40/12/40A (will soon be replaced by PX-708A)
Seagate Barracuda 7200 S-ATA 120 Gig

Here's my problem:

The only problem I have is whenever I boot my pc for the first time! So like in the mornings. It just wont pass through the POST.
It just sits there...

If I turn it off and on again, it works....

This is pretty strange.... what could it be ?

I have the S-ATA On-Chip setting on AUTO.
I have also tried Combined and Enhanced. Same effect.

ps: I just installed the latest BIOS releae from Shuttle's website.

 

[CronikNL]

anyone any ideas ?

 

[CronikNL]

Hi all,

It happened again this morning... I really have no idea what is causing this...
If I power it up again right after , everything is fine... ?????

 

[NFactor]

Did it happen before you installed the new bios too?

 

[CronikNL]

yeah, i've had it all along...

 

[mooojojojo]

Cronik, I have the exact same problem. Only it's not the mornings, but the evenings when I get back from work (I leave the PC on during the night). And it's not happening on each cold boot but fairly often.

My system is a Celeron 2GHz on a Gigabyte i845PE motherboard. The only explanation I have for myself is that the overclock I have is causing this. I run the Celeron at 2.66GHz. Sometimes when I boot and get into Windows I notice that it's running at 2GHz even though it did shut down properly etc. Are you overclocking at all?

 

[CronikNL]

Hey Mojojojojo

Well, I just cme back from work too and same problem! No spinn-up.
I'm thinking its my 250W PSU. :-( The guys at the pc store also think the same thing.
But I dunno, Shuttle makes barebones which should meet all requirements...?

I mean they should be aware of the fact that ATI cards need more juice for instance...

This weekend I'll be playing around more with another 400W PSU...

Oh BTW, I dont OC...

 

[CronikNL]

maybe a stupid queation, but should I select Combined mode or Enhanced mode ?

 

[mooojojojo]

Combined or Enhanced mode for what? (sorry if that's a stupid question.. maybe it's a common setting but I don't know it). Does it happen each and every time you do a cold start?

 

[mechBgon]

My understanding is that the fluid-bearing drives take quite a bit more ooomph to get started than a ball-bearing drive. Still, with your modest loadout (ie, not a Radeon 9800XT or FX5900 or something), you'd think there would be enough juice for that. As a fact-finding step, try the lowest-power video card you have and try with the optical drive not plugged into the PSU or motherboard, to reduce the power demands, and see if that changes things.

mooojojojo, on your system, try setting the hard drive to never power down, in the Control Panel > Power Options. It'll be interesting to hear what happens.

 

[CronikNL]

Hi guys,

I'm really getting *P* off with this system. I still have probles when booting my shuttle config for the first time (after being off for more than 1 hour). So a cold boot.

If I re-power the thing, everythings fine...

Like you mention mechBgon, I barely have anything inside.

Sapphire ATI 9600 Pro
1 * Seagate S-ATA
1 * Floppy Drive
1 * DVD/CDR(W) Plextor 708A

Some guys have the thing armed to the teeth and have no problems what so ever...?
My rig came with the 250W PSU.

Tonight I'll take out the S-ATA and put back in my WD IDE. Whats really annoying is that I need to wait at lease 1 hour in order to "reproduce"the problem...

Is there a way to check/enable if the Seagate SATA is first (possibly) trying for (min) 5V instead of (max)12V ?

 

[CronikNL]

Well, I put back in my IDE drive and no problemos! Everything booted up fine this morning.
So I've got a feeling that this SATA disk is somehow busted...?

 

[mooojojojo]

That's strange.. I also have a Seagate fluid bearing HDD (Barracuda IV). More comprehensive system specs: 300W generic PS, Gigabyte i845PE mobo, Celeron 2GHz at 2.66, Radeon9000pro, CD-RW + the Seagate and 2 NICs. Nothing too power hungry I think. Strange thing is it only started doing this lately... like a month ago.

Mech - I think that's what it's set to currently. And I don't get it - isn't this setting you mention only for when the PC is on? I mean when I power down the system and stop the UPS (I do that when I go out of the house for more than a couple of hours - paranoid.. ) the drive won't receive any juice. The problem occurs only when I do a cold boot like Cronik.

 

[SUOrangeman]

I'm not using my Seagate as a boot drive, but I'm getting a ton of SATA timeouts with this drive. My Raptor would timeout once in a blue moon, but I can't even get a solid minute without the Seagate timing out. Very frustrating.

Check your system event log to see if there are a lot of UlSata (well, for my Promise controller) timeouts.

-SUO