Cohen flips, states Trump knew of 2016 Trump Tower meeting with Russian intel agents in advance

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Actually, I'm looking beyond this issue alone. Any attorney that surreptitiously records a client, without their knowledge, or consent, should be disbarred. That is probably, at a minimum, what will happen to him. I'm not disappointed that Cohen is telling the truth, but I don't consider him any more of an honorable man, than Trump. Since money talks, take a guess who goes to prison and who doesn't. It's like the Clinton effect, in politics. ;)
You're a scumbag
 

PottedMeat

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lol
 

brycejones

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So skipping to the end of the chain of denial. He did it, so what?

The one position the GOP is left with now. Get ready for more play on the Putin is a friend who wants to help angle.
 

cytg111

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No. It's an ethics violation between an attorney and his client, period. Always would be, not matter who is involved. You are really thick, if you can't get this basic fact. Your partisanship blinders will not allow you to see that attorneys are in ethical violation, when they do things like this, and are subject to disbarment. I'm not defending Cohen, or Trump. I've discussed this matter with two attorneys in my own family and we're in agreement on this. Cohen gets disbarred.

He's not gonna be a hero to the liberals, because he turned on Trump. He will always be a dishonored, scumbag of an attorney...and disbarred, as well as most likely headed to prison.
Nope.. the second its illegal activity the attorney part is void... You can call it ethics between two people but thats it.

edit: as allready pointed out I see.
 

Denly

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Trump knew/approved the meeting, does that mean Jr caught lying? Lock him up, what FBI waiting for?
 
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I have feeling this is going to be the point. There will be a recording of Trump being aware of the Russians and their potential to bring damaging Hillary stuff to the meeting.
The useful idiots will claim that’s normal opposition research, the moderate Republican will remain silent and we’ll bicker about it to the end of time.

It’s not normal to accept opposition research from a foreign without disclosing it or paying for it. It’s very abnormal to accept it from Russia.
 
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K1052

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I like how Trump is already throwing his kid under the bus lol.
 

fskimospy

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I have feeling this is going to be the point. There will be a recording of Trump being aware of the Russians and their potential to being damaging Hillary stuff.
The useful idiots will claim that’s normal opposition research, the moderate Republican will remain silent and we’ll bicker about it to the end of time.

It’s not normal to accept opposition research from a foreign without disclosing it or paying for it. It’s very abnormal to accept it from Russia.

Oh yes we are definitely moving from denyin it ever happened to claiming it’s not big deal and everyone does it. When this happens Republicans will switch seamlessly and pretend there’s nothing incongruent between the two positions.
 

Jhhnn

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Well, I didn't think you got it. One scumbag turning on another scumbag, doesn't make either one of them less of a scumbag. My apologies, if we were not communicating, so each of us could understand each other's point. Sorry for calling you thick.

Yeh, but only one is the President.
 
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VRAMdemon

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Giuliani said we can’t believe Cohen because he is an established liar. So, their actual defense is that Cohen has spent so many years lying on behalf of Trump that we shouldn’t believe him.

Giuliani in May ; "No. I expect that he is going to cooperate with them. I don’t think they’ll be happy with it because he doesn’t have any incriminating evidence about the president or himself. The man is an honest, honorable lawyer. And despite the Times article today, which is totally baseless, as far as I can tell, but you know, that’s his lawyer’s issue where they had to help."

Giuliani in July ; He has lied all his life… a person who is found to be an incredible liar, he’s got a tremendous motive to lie now… I don’t think anyone believes that.

Of course Trump knew about the meeting. He was concerned about Russian adoptions as much as any American and was shocked, SHOCKED when he found out the wench's true motives. He then started a disinformation campaign on the Russians! Yeah, that's the ticket! He was helping the FBI when he asked for Russian help to find Hillary's emails!, it was a trap! The 13 Angry Democrat Witch Hunters are getting so desperate that they’re blaming Trump for the actions of another random guy that also happens to be named Donald Trump. Whom President Trump barely knows, maybe he met him a few times but he meets lots of people. Sad!
 
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No. Disappointed that ANY attorney would violate a client, by secretly recording their conversations. Take these two actors out of if and ask yourself if that is an ethical practice, by anyone, in a position of trust. It's not. Just because it happened to Trump, doesn't legitimize unethical behavior by the attorney, no matter how much people hate him.

How would you feel, if you had confidential conversations, with your own attorney, and they ended up on CNN, or another news station? Your confidentiality and trust would have been breached.

Stop doing illegal shady shit so you dont have to confide in anyone about your dirty deeds? :D
 

Hayabusa Rider

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No. It's an ethics violation between an attorney and his client, period. Always would be, not matter who is involved. You are really thick, if you can't get this basic fact. Your partisanship blinders will not allow you to see that attorneys are in ethical violation, when they do things like this, and are subject to disbarment. I'm not defending Cohen, or Trump. I've discussed this matter with two attorneys in my own family and we're in agreement on this. Cohen gets disbarred.

He's not gonna be a hero to the liberals, because he turned on Trump. He will always be a dishonored, scumbag of an attorney...and disbarred, as well as most likely headed to prison.

The ABA weighed in on taping before this and from what I've discovered it is permissible to record as Cohen did in NY although the practice is not considered something to be done on a routine basis. What may not happen is a lawyer lying to his client if asked if the conversation is being recorded. This is not a basis for disbarment. There are other things which leave Cohen's professional head on the chopping block such as participating in illegalities even though not a direct participant in the crime itself.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Republicans are scared of the Trumpy Republican base that will turn on them if they turn on him I think.

That seems most likely and probably true. More than that, some Reps are mighty cozy on their own with Russians like Rohrabacher and perhaps more. What lies beneath?
 

Commodus

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Before we all fall in love with Cohen lets remember this:


Oh, I don't think we're romanticizing him here -- it's just amusing that Trump's reliance on completely self-interested people is coming to bite him in the ass. He thought they'd be mindlessly loyal, but they were only loyal as long as they stood to profit.