mikeymikec
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Oh shit. The gop will surely move to....
Push through as much corrupt legislation as possible before their guy gets impeached?
Oh shit. The gop will surely move to....
Push through as much corrupt legislation as possible before their guy gets impeached?
Snap!.. If this can be proven I think its a big friggin deal... The whole "I am an useful idiot" scheme he has been running since inception starts with this premise... All the turtles down is going into ressonance right now!https://edition.cnn.com/2018/07/26/...-trump-june-2016-meeting-knowledge/index.html
Mueller just needs to flip Manafort now for corroboration. Which looks likely as he's an old man facing the rest of his life in prison.
It honestly sounds like you're disappointed that Cohen is telling the truth and not "gaming the system" by holding out for a pardon.This is one of the greatest examples of, if you do something wrong, you can't trust anyone in your circle. Once Cohen's office was raided and he knew he was facing his near certain demise, he went into survival mode, to pull his own bacon from the fryer. He'll get a light sentence, for his flip, maybe no prison time, just probation. There is no honor among scumbags and thieves. I suspect the relationship between him and Trump, going forward, will be less than cordial. If Cohen had played his cards right, he would have stood a very good chance of being pardoned. Now that he's fucked Trump, he'd better pray that his "flip" worked and he gets off easy. And, BTW, every lawyer, who's office was raided by the feds, went to prison.
It honestly sounds like you're disappointed that Cohen is telling the truth and not "gaming the system" by holding out for a pardon.
You sound bitter.Actually, I'm looking beyond this issue alone. Any attorney that surreptitiously records a client, without their knowledge, or consent, should be disbarred. That is probably, at a minimum, what will happen to him. I'm not disappointed that Cohen is telling the truth, but I don't consider him any more of an honorable man, than Trump. Since money talks, take a guess who goes to prison and who doesn't. It's like the Clinton effect, in politics.![]()
You sound bitter.
Haha.. Cohen needed that pardon yesterday, he even tried smoke signals at got crickets back from Trump. No pardonThis is one of the greatest examples of, if you do something wrong, you can't trust anyone in your circle. Once Cohen's office was raided and he knew he was facing his near certain demise, he went into survival mode, to pull his own bacon from the fryer. He'll get a light sentence, for his flip, maybe no prison time, just probation. There is no honor among scumbags and thieves. I suspect the relationship between him and Trump, going forward, will be less than cordial. If Cohen had played his cards right, he would have stood a very good chance of being pardoned. Now that he's fucked Trump, he'd better pray that his "flip" worked and he gets off easy. And, BTW, every lawyer, who's office was raided by the feds, went to prison.
Disappointed in Cohen flipping?Probably from that bitter ale I drank. Not bitter at all. lol
Disappointed in a few things? Yes.
Disappointed in Cohen flipping?
This is a bit different than a defence attorney breaking privilege and discussing a guilty client, this is an attorney who was, likely, actively engaged in illegal activities WITH his client. That is NOT the same thing. It sounds like you're stretching things because your guy is getting some heat. This is what it sounds like..No. Disappointed that ANY attorney would violate a client, by secretly recording their conversations. Take these two actors out of if and ask yourself if that is an ethical practice, by anyone, in a position of trust. It's not. Just because it happened to Trump, doesn't legitimize unethical behavior by the attorney, no matter how much people hate him.
This is a bit different than a defence attorney breaking privilege and discussing a guilty client, this is an attorney who was, likely, actively engaged in illegal activities WITH his client. That is NOT the same thing. It sounds like you're stretching things because your guy is getting some heat. This is what it sounds like..
No. It's an ethics violation between an attorney and his client, period. Always would be, not matter who is involved. You are really thick, if you can't get this basic fact. Your partisanship blinders will not allow you to see that attorneys are in ethical violation, when they do things like this, and are subject to disbarment. I'm not defending Cohen, or Trump. I've discussed this matter with two attorneys in my own family and we're in agreement on this. Cohen gets disbarred.
You're calling someone thick? Throwing stones of partisan blinders? That's rich. Certainly Cohen should be disbarred, for DOING ILLEGAL THINGS with his client. I'm sure I've spoken to just as many "lawyer relations" as you have, so let's leave anecdotes out of this.No. It's an ethics violation between an attorney and his client, period. Always would be, not matter who is involved. You are really thick, if you can't get this basic fact. Your partisanship blinders will not allow you to see that attorneys are in ethical violation, when they do things like this, and are subject to disbarment. I'm not defending Cohen, or Trump. I've discussed this matter with two attorneys in my own family and we're in agreement on this. Cohen gets disbarred.
He's not gonna be a hero to the liberals, because he turned on Trump. He will always be a dishonored, scumbag of an attorney...and disbarred, as well as most likely headed to prison.
He's not gonna be a hero to the liberals, because he turned on Trump. He will always be a dishonored, scumbag of an attorney...and disbarred, as well as most likely headed to prison.
Depending on the state aren't you obligated to tell the other party they are being recorded anyway? And if it's new York, my guess would be that it's a 2 party state?I think Cohen was getting disbarred either way, haha. It’s not like he’s acted ethically about anything else so it seems a bit hard to expect him to start now. Still I agree, lawyers taping their clients and releasing it is insane.
That being said, it’s also not a privileged conversation if your client is engaging in criminal activity. Depending on what the plan was to finance that payment - ie: if it’s the same way the Stormy payment was handled, then Trump was engaging in a criminal conspiracy to commit bank fraud and violate various other election finance laws. Those are very, very serious crimes.
You're calling someone thick? Throwing stones of partisan blinders? That's rich. Certainly Cohen should be disbarred, for DOING ILLEGAL THINGS with his client. I'm sure I've spoken to just as many "lawyer relations" as you have, so let's leave anecdotes out of this.
No. Disappointed that ANY attorney would violate a client, by secretly recording their conversations. Take these two actors out of if and ask yourself if that is an ethical practice, by anyone, in a position of trust. It's not. Just because it happened to Trump, doesn't legitimize unethical behavior by the attorney, no matter how much people hate him.
How would you feel, if you had confidential conversations, with your own attorney, and they ended up on CNN, or another news station? Your confidentiality and trust would have been breached.
Well, I didn't think you got it. One scumbag turning on another scumbag, doesn't make either one of them less of a scumbag. My apologies, if we were not communicating, so each of us could understand each other's point. Sorry for calling you thick.
We are not here discussing Michael Cohen, attorney at law. We are here discussing Michael Cohen, co-conspirator. Your concern is gravely misplaced.
Depending on the state aren't you obligated to tell the other party they are being recorded anyway? And if it's new York, my guess would be that it's a 2 party state?
