Coca-Cola Sued

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Nebor
No one got my funny.

Way too subtle.

You have alzheimers LOLZ!

Better?

 

[0roo0roo]

http://www.foodnavigator-usa.com/news/ng.asp?n=65840-soft-drinks-fda-benzene
http://www.foodanddrinkeurope.com/news/ng.asp?id=65933

yup its all drinks that have the benzoate+ascorbic acid thing.

think consumer reports found more benzene than is safe in their tests too this month.

so its not just coke company being sued that is important, stay away from all sodas with this combo, mostly orange/lemonade type sodas from what i can tell. i have a bottle of tropicana orange drinky stuff with the bad stuff on the label oh well.

 

[Sc4freak]

This is rediculous. Salt gives high blood pressure. Margarine makes you blind. Butter gives you heart attacks. And carbonised meats give you cancer. Does that mean that all these should be banned too?

Oh, and excess radiation emanating from large high-voltage power lines are rumoured to give you cancer as well. And mobile phones. And microwaves. I guess those should all be banned as well. Hell, let's try and sue the governments of the world for not building a gigantic super-array of satellites in the sky to reflect sunlight so we don't get skin cancer. :roll:

 

[Amused]

Just a thought, but shouldn't law suits be limited to something that causes real, provable harm and restricted to collecting damages?

I see a lot of fear, and a lot of hype, but what I do not see are any studies showing any correlation, much less causation between consumption of these drinks and cancer.

Just about everything has something in it that can cause cancer if exposed to sufficient quantities. With carcinogens the adage "the dose makes the poison" is especially true. The key question here is are these drinks really causing cancers? Or are lawyers making money on baseless fears?

 

[sdifox]

Food products have to be safe to consume. Benzine is not safe to consume. Lawsuit legit.

 

[jlbenedict]

Originally posted by: sdifox
Food products have to be safe to consume. Benzine is not safe to consume. Lawsuit legit.

Benzine is not an ingredient in these soft drinks

 

[FoBoT]

i drink Vault Zero
but then i like benzene

 

[jlbenedict]

Originally posted by: FoBoT
i drink Vault Zero
but then i like benzene

:thumbsup:

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: jlbenedict

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: jlbenedict
What a crock of $hit... Coca-Cola doesn't force you to drink their products. Consumers know there is a fvcking risk with any product that is consumed, besides water. This lawsuit happy society is sickening..

Soft drink companies reach benzene deal

"Coca-Cola was sued Friday in an attempt by parents to force soft drink makers to eliminate ingredients in their products that can form cancer-causing benzene.

The complaint against the soft drink giant came as two other companies settled a lawsuit over benzene, which is linked to leukemia.

Atlanta-based In Zone Brands Inc., maker of BellyWashers, and Preston, Wash.-based TalkingRain Beverage Co. agreed to change ingredients and offer refunds. District of Columbia Superior Court judge Mary Terrell dismissed that case Friday morning.

Similar suits are pending in Kansas, Massachusetts, Florida, California and New Jersey. Plaintiffs added Coke's Vault Zero energy drink to the Kansas lawsuit, which also targets Pepsi's Diet Wild Cherry and Kraft's Crystal Light Sunrise Classic Orange.

Boston lawyer Andrew Rainer, who represents the parents, said the settlement should prod bigger companies to change their ingredients.

"I think if they understand that consumers, and perhaps courts, expect them to eliminate this problem, they will," Rainer said."

you = dumbass.

there are times when suing a company is a good thing.

Does Coca-Cola FORCE you to drink their products? You know good and damn well than any product consumed besides natural water could possibly be a risk to your health.
Consumers playing ignorant seems to be the norm today.. Play ignorant; hire a lawyer and sue.. thats all this amounts to..

I suppose Coca-Cola could just start putting pesticides in coke and blame the consumer for ignorance. An idiot is YOU!

 

[newParadigm]

Originally posted by: foghorn67

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: foghorn67
Then there should be a label on every friggin man made thing sold, given out, displayed for the general public, talked about, and read about. Made up stuff from the future should be labeled too.
I hope she loses the suit.

Um.... yeah, ok. People know that many things are harmful for them. People know that if you eat fatty foods, you're going to get fat. People know that McDonalds is not particularly healthy for them. But people don't know when they look at the ingredients on their soft drink that the potassium benzoate in there can cause cancer. And in that case, I think people deserve to be informed. I hope these people lose their lawsuit too, because they want Coca-Cola to have to change their ingredients. I think a warning should be sufficient. I think leaving the public in the dark about a largely unknown dangerous substance in their drink is not sufficient.

my point is...odds are the consumption of cocacola will lead to other health problems. Cancer should the least of your concerns when drinking these products. That fat, carbs and sugars would cause way more health problems. If you don't know the risks. Lay off junk food. I enjoy junk food, knowing we don't know all the stuff it can do to you.

If i drink three cokes a day, while eating an otherwise healthy diet, it won't do sh!t to my health.

 

[newParadigm]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: JS80
salt causes high blood pressure. should Morton Salt be sued too?

Originally posted by: JS80
specific genes cause cancer. should your parents get sued too?

Are you trying to look like an idiot?

Nope, I believe he is trying to show that he belives the lawsuit is ludicrous through subliminal messaging.

 

[jlbenedict]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: jlbenedict

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: jlbenedict
What a crock of $hit... Coca-Cola doesn't force you to drink their products. Consumers know there is a fvcking risk with any product that is consumed, besides water. This lawsuit happy society is sickening..

Soft drink companies reach benzene deal

"Coca-Cola was sued Friday in an attempt by parents to force soft drink makers to eliminate ingredients in their products that can form cancer-causing benzene.

The complaint against the soft drink giant came as two other companies settled a lawsuit over benzene, which is linked to leukemia.

Atlanta-based In Zone Brands Inc., maker of BellyWashers, and Preston, Wash.-based TalkingRain Beverage Co. agreed to change ingredients and offer refunds. District of Columbia Superior Court judge Mary Terrell dismissed that case Friday morning.

Similar suits are pending in Kansas, Massachusetts, Florida, California and New Jersey. Plaintiffs added Coke's Vault Zero energy drink to the Kansas lawsuit, which also targets Pepsi's Diet Wild Cherry and Kraft's Crystal Light Sunrise Classic Orange.

Boston lawyer Andrew Rainer, who represents the parents, said the settlement should prod bigger companies to change their ingredients.

"I think if they understand that consumers, and perhaps courts, expect them to eliminate this problem, they will," Rainer said."

you = dumbass.

there are times when suing a company is a good thing.

Does Coca-Cola FORCE you to drink their products? You know good and damn well than any product consumed besides natural water could possibly be a risk to your health.
Consumers playing ignorant seems to be the norm today.. Play ignorant; hire a lawyer and sue.. thats all this amounts to..

I suppose Coca-Cola could just start putting pesticides in coke and blame the consumer for ignorance. An idiot is YOU!

If you don't know what pesticides are, you're the idiot. You are crossing way out in left field on pesticides being put in Coke.. Nice try

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: sdifox
Food products have to be safe to consume. Benzine is not safe to consume. Lawsuit legit.

No, there is an arbitrary limit of how much benzine is safe to consume. And that limit is imposed by the FDA on drinking water only.

 

[newParadigm]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: Thraxen

Originally posted by: JS80
the sun causes cancer. should God/Universe/Physics/Stephen Hawking get sued too?

LOL... you are naming things that are pretty much common knowledge, or in the case of the sun, just plain dumb. Do you honestly think the general public knows anything about benzene?

i guess that's why out of the billion people who drink coke, the number of people who get cancer from benzene is what? you can't prove benzene from coke causes cancer. living life itself causes cancer. a drop of benzene in a soda pop will NOT give you cancer.

So first you say we shouldn't warn people about everything and sue companies for negligently harming their consumers without warning, now you're saying it doesn't matter because in your quite informed medical opinion benzene won't cause cancer... so which is it?

I never said companies shouldn't warn people. However, it is unreasonable for someone to sue coca cola because one of their preservatives in rare cases can react with other foods you ingest to form benzene to cause cancer. The lawyers on this case don't give a fvck about cancer; they just want to make money off it.

Actually, it reacts with a chemical (Vitamin C), that is present in everyones diet in quatntities far above 'negligable'.

 

[jlbenedict]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: sdifox
Food products have to be safe to consume. Benzine is not safe to consume. Lawsuit legit.

No, there is an arbitrary limit of how much benzine is safe to consume. And that limit is imposed by the FDA on drinking water only.

Amused is correct.

"In November 2005, FDA received private laboratory results reporting low levels of benzene in a small number of soft drinks that contained benzoate salts (an antimicrobial) and ascorbic acid (vitamin C). FDA has no regulatory limits for benzene in beverages other than bottled water, for which FDA uses the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) maximum contaminant level (MCL) of 5 ppb for drinking water, as a quality standard."

Data on Benzene in Soft Drinks and Other Beverages

 

[jlbenedict]

"FDA's Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition (CFSAN) initiated a survey of benzene levels in soft drinks following receipt of the November 2005 reports. This survey indicates that the vast majority of beverages sampled (including those containing both benzoate salts and ascorbic acid) contain either no detectable benzene levels or are well below the 5 parts per billion (ppb) U.S. water standard. The results of this survey, which will be released in the near future, indicate that the levels of benzene in these beverages do not pose a safety concern."

Benzene in Soft Drinks (FDA Statement dated April 13, 2006)

 

[0roo0roo]

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/food...ne-8-06/overview/1006_benzene_ov_1.htm

 

[MrCodeDude]

The Food and Drug Administration "has closely reviewed beverages for the presence of benzene in soft drinks several times in the past and each time has found no public health issue," said Coke spokesman Ray A. Crockett.

That's good enough for me.

 

[Kyanzes]

Was drinking a glass of Coca Cola when spotted this thread, the taste suddenly changed. There are things far more dangerous in this world than Coca Cola. The very air itself you inhale in larger cities alone enough to kill you in the long run.

 

[tk149]

Originally posted by: jman19
I don't see the problem with this lawsuit. If Coca-Cola is putting harmful ingredients in their drinks that are directly linked to cancer, and there is no warning about this, then they deserve the lawsuit.

But I guess since you aren't forced to drink Coke, they don't have any obligation to the consumer, right? :disgust:

Did you read the article? :disgust:

"There is no supporting documentation to prove how these lawyers conducted these tests," he said. "Their own press release indicates that they have abused the product with heat prior to testing.

FDA officials say there is no safety concern and that levels are still relatively low compared with other sources of exposure to benzene.

The soft drink industry agrees and says the amount of soft drinks people consume is much less than the amount of tap water they are exposed to.

The dose makes the poison. Is there even a single study linking soft drink consumption to human cancer?

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: tk149

Originally posted by: jman19
I don't see the problem with this lawsuit. If Coca-Cola is putting harmful ingredients in their drinks that are directly linked to cancer, and there is no warning about this, then they deserve the lawsuit.

But I guess since you aren't forced to drink Coke, they don't have any obligation to the consumer, right? :disgust:

Did you read the article? :disgust:

"There is no supporting documentation to prove how these lawyers conducted these tests," he said. "Their own press release indicates that they have abused the product with heat prior to testing.

FDA officials say there is no safety concern and that levels are still relatively low compared with other sources of exposure to benzene.

The soft drink industry agrees and says the amount of soft drinks people consume is much less than the amount of tap water they are exposed to.

The dose makes the poison. Is there even a single study linking soft drink consumption to human cancer?

That's the key everyone seems to miss. People are so quick to panic and believe fear mongering lawyers and activists with no critical thinking whatsoever.

And the sad part? If you question these kind of things, you are accused of being a "corporate shill" or other such nonsense.

Let's face it, skeptics who can think objectively aren't popular.

 

[sao123]

alcohol causes liver & kidney cancer, perhaps we should outloaw beer
:roll:

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Benzene can form in soft drinks containing vitamin C, also called ascorbic acid, and either sodium benzoate or potassium benzoate. Scientists say factors such as heat or light exposure can trigger a reaction that forms benzene in the beverages.

OMG!! Orange juice can cause cancer!!



ZV

 

[IAteYourMother]

I didn't know there was benzene in coke. lawsuit is justified in my eyes

 

[tk149]

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
I didn't know there was benzene in coke. lawsuit is justified in my eyes

If you had read the first post critically, you would have realized that only one Coca-Cola product was added to the lawsuit - Vault Zero.

You also would have realized that the lawsuit was filed by "parents", which should have set off your "WARNING! HIGH EMOTIONAL CONTENT UNDILUTED BY LOGIC" detector.

If you had bothered reading the source article, you would have seen

"There is no supporting documentation to prove how these lawyers conducted these tests," he [Coke's spokesman] said. "Their own press release indicates that they have abused the product with heat prior to testing

You also would have seen the real motivation for these lawsuits

As part of the settlement, the smaller companies agreed to pay $35,000 each. Rainer said most of the money will pay legal costs.

As Amused pointed out above, it's knee-jerk reactions like yours, based on supposition and emotion, that let overly greedy lawyers and irrational activists lower our quality of life and unnecessarily increase the cost of goods.

FDA's response Letter Regarding Benzene Levels in Soft Drinks

By the way, there's probably benzene in your tap water too. You can go panic now.