Coal miners to obama - stop lying

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Jhhnn

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That's not what the study says, it's just where they performed it. It would apply to any political system that includes a left-wing such as liberals/progressives/socialists or communists. Peer reviewed science. and the urban dictionary just for fun.

Quote the passage that supports your contention.
 

cybrsage

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I haven't seen any actual support, although you seem to be less judgmental in that particular narrow regard than many of your fellow travelers. Feel free to quote yourself.

YOU made the claim about me. Put up or admit you are a liar. I realize you will most likely do neither...but I am an optimist and I hope you choose to do the right thing and apologize for your slanderous lie.
 

Lemon law

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I may come late to this thread, but why are we in this nation bogged down on trading charges of who is lying and who is not, when especially the US Eastern coal questions are really a matter of wise public policy vs US environmental suicide.

Simply because the world wide distribution of "fossil fuels" was decided by Mother nature even before the the age of the dinosaurs. When it came to abundant oil, most current human nations were simply standing behind the door when the oil was handed out. But still the USA did far better than average in terms of coal when it was handed out. With the somewhat distinction being, US coal was formed in two separate Geological time periods. As the US coal formed East of the present location of the Mississippi river formed in low lying swamps in the Pennsylvanian era and dates to before the rise of the present day Applications Mountains. While Western coal deposits formed later and only ended when geological processes also up thrust low lying swamps to well above sea level. Which ended peat and then coal formation.

As the US Western and Eastern coal deposits might as well have occurred on different continents or different planets, especially after the deeper Eastern anthracite coal depots are already depleted. Simply because Eastern coal deposits are seriously the worst of all environmental options in every way. Menaces to public health to mine, menaces to strip mine as the the resulting environmental damage and high sulfur content blights and contaminates the bulk of the US south east. And the burning of such high sulfur coal causes acid rain that causes even more damage world wide.

At least Western US coal deposits have far less sulfur content, but still share the same global warming bad news common in burning too much fossil fuels in a too short period of time.

But still in my mind, the burning of Eastern coal is stupidity on steroids, but if we stop the practice it costs US jobs.
 

trenchfoot

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Coal will go the way that whale oil did. It's inevitable. Time marches on. Remember oil lamps for street lghts? Fedoras? Covered wagons? Flintlock rifles? Until the coal industry decides to invest in methods and processes that drastically reduces the output of toxic pollutants that come from burning coal, that industry is doomed.

And why was it OK for the auto industry/oil magnates to bury the electric cable car industry when they were so much more energy efficient than deisel/gas burning buses at that time, and not OK for coal to suffer its own demise for being an obsolete and deleterious form of energy in the wake of emerging technologies?
 

Throckmorton

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we all know about the obama/liberal hostility towards developing natural resources on public/private lands. They want to shut it all down and sky rocket the retail price of all energy.

It's hilarious that words like "develop" and "produce" are used. This is resource extraction and it involves destroying the landscape.
 

Jhhnn

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You are so full of fail here. Look over my posts, I have consistently supported helping the poor, especially single mothers. Not for the sake of the mother, but for the child. The next generation is important.

Your hate makes you blind.

I haven't seen any actual support, although you seem to be less judgmental in that particular narrow regard than many of your fellow travelers. Feel free to quote yourself.

You do, however, seem to support a lot of things that undermine lower income working people- the whole voter fraud scam, the sentiment that voters not paying federal income tax somehow undermines democracy, the Fair Tax deception & an anti union attitude, which is elitist on face value.

YOU made the claim about me. Put up or admit you are a liar. I realize you will most likely do neither...but I am an optimist and I hope you choose to do the right thing and apologize for your slanderous lie.

I can't find any comments by you actually supporting single mothers prior to the quote, above. If you have made any, then you should be able to illustrate it. It's your contention.

Your elitist attitude is obvious in the support for the positions I mentioned, your disdain for the less fortunate quite clear. You just code it a little better than some of your fellows, feign innocence when it suits your purposes. Calling me a liar is your last resort to maintain those illusions, fooling nobody other than perhaps yourself.
 

cybrsage

Lifer
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What you need to do is support YOUR claim...I do not need to prove your claim wrong. You are attempting to shift the support from YOURSELF to others.

I suspected you would refuse to support your own claim, it is your modus operandi.
 

Jhhnn

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What you need to do is support YOUR claim...I do not need to prove your claim wrong. You are attempting to shift the support from YOURSELF to others.

I suspected you would refuse to support your own claim, it is your modus operandi.

My claim that none of our raving righties give a damn about coal miners until they say something bad about Obama?

That's self evident. The lot of you couldn't link any statements you've ever made in support of coal miners prior to that, particularly not union miners.

My claim that you're an elitist prick who thinks his shit doesn't stink, who looks down on those less fortunate than himself? A guy with a gravy job who spends a lot of work time posting here rather than tending to business?

It's your posting history here entirely.

Where's that link to your support for single mothers, anyway? If you've ever expressed any, that'd be a pleasant surprise for those of us who endure your obtuse trollery.
 

cybrsage

Lifer
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My claim that none of our raving righties give a damn about coal miners until they say something bad about Obama?

I live in PA, we are a state heavily dependent upon coal for our economy. I support coal miners greatly.

You like failing, don't you?


I am saddened that you still refuse to admit you are wrong and continue to post slander. You should stop before you get yourself in trouble.
 

Jhhnn

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I live in PA, we are a state heavily dependent upon coal for our economy. I support coal miners greatly.

You like failing, don't you?


I am saddened that you still refuse to admit you are wrong and continue to post slander. You should stop before you get yourself in trouble.

Heh. If your constant lies & trollery haven't gotten you in trouble, I'm probably pretty safe in telling the truth.

You support coal miners greatly?

Same as you've supported single mothers, huh?

Cite previous support for both, and I'll concede that you're a right wing maverick, a man who represents himself honestly in this instance. Have at it.
 

cybrsage

Lifer
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I see you are still refusing to admit you were wrong. One day you will grow up and be ashamed of the boy you used to be.