Co shipping for sale camera and money or not?

[TungFree]

I made a deal to buy for a olympus camera for about 200 dollars.

He has 11 heatware
He has 145 posts but been here since june 2001
He is 21 and a student

I have 6 heatware
have posted 750 posts been here since Jan 2001
I am 60 years old and am a Teacher.

I offered him to co ship and a price. He countered the price only, and never said a thing about shipping till I accepted his price. At that point he said he is glad I accepted his counter offer and will ship immediately after he receives the money.

I am posting this fo get an input from staff as to the right thing for us to do. I suggested to him that asking you is the prudent thing to do. I welcome your opinions.

Thank you.

 

[Angrymarshmello]

Well this isn't a forum issue as much as it's a FS/FT issue, but I don't understand what you mean by co-ship. Do you mean cross-ship, ie he sends out camera and you send out the money at the same time? Honestly, this is a minor issue that you two need to work out between yourselves. It seems as if you never firmly agreed on a shipping method, only a price, so this doesn't necessarily constitute a deal. If neither side can come to an agreement then you might as well nix the deal.

 

[TungFree]

I mean as you suggest cross-ship

 

[TungFree]

In Real Estate deals if you counter offer only a portion of the deal you are accepting the rest.
I understood that to be the case when I accepted his only correction of my offer (the price) and I agreed to that price assumed he was agreeing to the rest he never complained that I asked to cross ship simultaneously, untill I accepted his price change.

 

[Ryan]

This isn't Real Estate, if AT. He is not obligated to ship first, you are (especially since you have fewer heatware refs). He just accepted your price. If he did not state that he would cross-ship the camera, he's not abligated to.

Also, work on your typing; it's hard to understand your multitude of run-on sentences.

 

[TungFree]

I contiually see it said on anandtech that unless someone has 18 possitive heat, they would never send money first,
I am just asking what would you do in this circumstance and while this is not real estate a deal is a contract in any area, and contracts are based on agreements made.
If he only countered me on price, his silence on the offer to cross ship I made constitutes agreement. I know I will not hold him bound to that I just seek an equitable way to hadle this since I have not heard from him yet and have told him this thread is ongoing.
About my English I speak 10 languages and teach Math. English is my 5th learned language and thanks for the correction, it was more of an oversight.

In what circomstances is it prudent to cross ship? and in what is it clear who ships first? is anyone here with a great deal of trading deals experience, who could give a rule of thumb for us 2 to use as a guideline or a beginning, to work this out?

 

[TungFree]

I edited the posts for more clarity

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: TungFree
I contiually see it said on anandtech that unless someone has 18 possitive heat, they would never send money first....

There are no hard, fast, set rules for trading here. Two people agree to terms and a deal is done.
Generally a new trader is expected to pay or ship first but they don't have to. There is no "rule" that states that the junior trader must pay/ship first. Just as there is no "rule" on how many trades constitutes a senior trader.
If the two people can't come to terms, there is no deal. Don't take it personally, just move on to the next deal.

In your specific case, I would assume if you made an offer, let's say "$45.00 and we cross ship" and then the other party counter offered and only mentioned upping the price to $50.00, that the cross ship would have been an accepted part of the deal. But it's possible that person just forgot to mention the cross ship. There really is no way to hold them to it, just don't do the deal and move on.

If you recall our deal, I had you pay first for the camera. You were reluctant but did so and got a good deal. My personal thought is "if it doesn't feel/seem right, don't do it". I just canceled a deal on an item because the other party copped an attitude and I didn't feel like dealing with him. He still needs the item and I will have to find another buyer for something I could have already sold but I feel better knowing I probably avoided some type of future problem.
Good luck with this and remember that trading here is not a business subject to it's rules and regulations. It's just two people with similar interests trying to make a trade.

 

[TungFree]

Oldsmoboat

wow nice to see you again after over a year
Thanks for your wisdom...
I sent a copy of it to the seller. and offered him 1/3rd up front and 2/3 right after he scans and e-mails me the proof he sent the items (2/3 cross shipped 1/3 upfront by me)).
Hope he likes that ok and helps me out feeling more secure.

 

[mastertech01]

Or you can compromise like half now half when recieved, COD, etc. Lots of possibilities.

EDIT, looks like you figured it out..

 

[TungFree]

Thank you I will suggest it to him