CNN obtains signed letter of intent for Trump Tower Moscow

Jaskalas

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1: If Trump says something, it is almost certainly a lie.
2: What's the date on this document, when was it signed? Trump has been trying to build a tower in Moscow since the 80s.
3: It'd be effortless to forge that document. Just saying.
 

Greenman

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A real estate developer wants to build a high rise in Moscow. Why would Rudy bother denying it? What am I missing here?
 

zzyzxroad

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A real estate developer wants to build a high rise in Moscow. Why would Rudy bother denying it? What am I missing here?
So best case scenario for you is the Commander-in-chief has just been blatantly lieing about having financial ties to Russia. No big deal just another lie from a con man?
 

alien42

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So best case scenario for you is the Commander-in-chief has just been blatantly lieing about having financial ties to Russia. No big deal just another lie from a con man?

he WAS a lying conman, NOW he is President.

i'm afraid that's all tens of millions of Americans need to justify the worst decision of their lives and the decades of Faux News and GOP FUD agitprop that led them there.
 
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fskimospy

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A real estate developer wants to build a high rise in Moscow. Why would Rudy bother denying it? What am I missing here?

It is pretty curious that Trump and his associates get caught lying about their dealings with the Russians over and over and over.

The most likely answer for all the lies is there’s something to lie about.
 
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K1052

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It is pretty curious that Trump and his associates get caught lying about their dealings with the Russians over and over and over.

The most likely answer for all the lies is there’s something to lie about.

Since efforts apparently continued along several avenues, including one strategy to bribe Putin himself, well into 2016 I'd say yeah.
 

LTC8K6

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Have to wonder about Giuliani and CNN being unaware of Trump Jr's testimony.
 

K1052

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Have to wonder about Giuliani and CNN being unaware of Trump Jr's testimony.

Rudy's purpose is to provide cover in the form of lies and bullshit in such vast quantities that it confounds the senses. Not so much a legal job as a PR job.
 
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LTC8K6

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Just more evidence that CNN can't be trusted. Only Fox News tells it like it is.
Any news outlet was free to contradict Giuliani immediately with Trump Jr's testimony. None did so. Not even Fox.

Apparently researching a story or claim is still taking a back seat to getting on the air first with a juicy story.
 

zinfamous

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Any news outlet was free to contradict Giuliani immediately with Trump Jr's testimony. None did so. Not even Fox.

Apparently researching a story or claim is still taking a back seat to getting on the air first with a juicy story.

I like how you just assume Jr's Testimony was never part of the story to begin with. You ignore the obvious: that directly contradicting a claim on said document, by providing said document as physical evidence, is an entirely different thing.

Care to consider that? Or just more quibbling over an issue that exists only in your mind?
 

LTC8K6

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I like how you just assume Jr's Testimony was never part of the story to begin with. You ignore the obvious: that directly contradicting a claim on said document, by providing said document as physical evidence, is an entirely different thing.

Care to consider that? Or just more quibbling over an issue that exists only in your mind?
I think it's pretty simple. Someone gave CNN the letter to counter Giuliani, and CNN ran with a story that sounded bad for Trump, without doing much background research, or without caring that the world already knew.

Upon research, the story is actually pretty much neutral for Trump, and it makes Giuliani look silly for not knowing the letter had been signed.

Overall I don't really care if Trump was researching building a hotel in Russia at that time.

It's interesting that Trump apparently did not tell Giuliani that he had signed the letter, so that Giuliani could at least retract.
That has probably increased the friction in the Trump legal camp.
 
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dank69

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I think it's pretty simple. Someone gave CNN the letter to counter Giuliani, and CNN ran with a story that sounded bad for Trump, without doing much background research, or without caring that the world already knew.

Upon research, the story is actually pretty much neutral for Trump, and it makes Giuliani look silly for not knowing the letter had been signed.

Overall I don't really care if Trump was researching building a hotel in Russia at that time.

It's interesting that Trump apparently did not tell Giuliani that he had signed the letter, so that Giuliani could at least retract.
That has probably increased the friction in the Trump legal camp.
If the world already knew, then why didn't Giuliani? Why didn't the world come out and say we already knew when he first made that statement? I certainly didn't know. I don't have the time or desire to read all that shit.
 

cytg111

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Probably wondering why you fellows are jumping up and down over this. Trump wanted to build another hotel, probably still does.
Something that could only happen if sanctions were lifted ............... ............ ............. .... .. .. .... . ... . . . . . . .... . . . . .. . . . . .. . .. . . . ................. + the billion dollar penhouse suite he offered to Putin as a gift to smoooooothe the deal.
And there it is. Criming all day all week all year, always.

BUT !!!! In moments like these its important to remember a few things!!!
- Her emails!
- Uranium one
- Benghazi!!!!
- Space demons.