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CNN Lets 'Crossfire' Host Carlson Go

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CNN Lets 'Crossfire' Host Carlson Go
By DAVID BAUDER, AP Television Writer

NEW YORK - CNN said goodbye to pundit Tucker Carlson on Wednesday, and with him likely the "Crossfire" program that has been the granddaddy of high-volume political debate shows on cable television. CNN will probably fold "Crossfire" into its other programming, perhaps as an occasional segment on the daytime show "Inside Politics," said Jonathan Klein, who was appointed in late November as chief executive of CNN's U.S. network.

Klein on Wednesday told Carlson, one of the four "Crossfire" hosts, that CNN would not be offering him a new contract. Carlson has been talking with MSNBC about a prime-time opening replacing Deborah Norville.

"I would host any kind of show for (MSNBC chief executive) Rick Kaplan," said Carlson, whose Friday night PBS show "Tucker Carlson: Unfiltered" resumes this week.

He said he enjoyed every minute working for CNN, but that he had told executives last April that he wanted to do something different from "Crossfire."

The bow-tied wearing conservative pundit got into a public tussle last fall with comic Jon Stewart, who has been critical of cable political programs that devolve into shoutfests.

"I guess I come down more firmly in the Jon Stewart camp," Klein told The Associated Press.

He said all of the cable networks, including CNN, have overdosed on programming devoted to arguing over issues. Klein said he wants more substantive programming that is still compelling.

"I doubt that when the president sits down with his advisers they scream at him to bring him up to date on all of the issues," he said. "I don't know why we don't treat the audience with the same respect."

"Crossfire" began in 1982 and was once a mainstay of CNN's prime time. Pat Buchanan (news - web sites) from the right and Michael Kinsley from the left were two of its most prominent hosts.

But as Fox News Channel perfected the format with popular hosts Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity, "Crossfire" lost favor among CNN executives and was moved to the afternoons in 2002. It averages 447,000 viewers each weekday, down 21 percent from the previous season, according to Nielsen Media Research. Carlson rotates as host with conservative columnist Bob Novak. Paul Begala and James Carville are the left-leaning ringleaders.

Klein said he hoped Novak, Begala and Carville would continue with meaningful commentator roles at CNN.

Carlson had one failed bid at prime time on CNN with "The Spin Room," which was canceled after less than six months in 2001.

He subbed last week for newscaster Aaron Brown as Klein wanted to see him in a different role before making a decision about his future. Klein said his views on wanting to change the tone of political coverage were separate from the decision to keep Carlson.

"His career aspirations and our programming needs just don't synch up," Klein said. "He wants to host his own nighttime show and we don't see that in the cards here. Out of respect for him and his talent, we thought it would be best to let him explore opportunities elsewhere."

An MSNBC spokesman had no comment on CNN's decision.

"We think Tucker is a great journalist and we're exploring our options for a new 9 p.m. show," said MSNBC's Jeremy Gaines.
 
everyone knows that Wolf owns them all. Wolf Blitzer is one of my favs on CNN. I wouldn't turn that channel on otherwise
 
THE POWER OF STEWART COMMANDS YOU...THE POWER OF STEWART COMMANDS YOU TO KEEP THIS CRAP IN P&N...:shocked:
 
Originally posted by: rickn
everyone knows that Wolf owns them all. Wolf Blitzer is one of my favs on CNN. I wouldn't turn that channel on otherwise

and Judy Woodruff is pretty good too.

and Anderson Cooper has been awesome during this disaster coverage along with Paula Zahn too
 
I use to watch Crossfire in the beginning, but yeah, it's gotten so tiring. Glad it's ending. I was also glad when they dumped that Townhall style show in the mall. Looks like CNN is going in the right direction. I just wish they would drop the 90 sec of Pop in the morning.
 
yea it was funny. ifilms downloads like doubled or tripled the cnn audience..then btorrent.. god knows how many people downoaded with that. he got pwned🙂
 
Phew, I thought one non raging liberal view point on the Clinton News Network was WAY too much. Glad we can have our DNC...er.......CNN back.
 
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Phew, I thought one non raging liberal view point on the Clinton News Network was WAY too much. Glad we can have our DNC...er.......CNN back.

You know, normally I wouldn't agree with you here, because I think the whole idea of media bias is pretty silly, but why are they keeping everyone but him? It could be creative differences and the like, but Begala was just as vitriolic toward Stewart as Tucker Carlson was. I think John Stewart's role was simply a good "excuse" for CNN. I agree that I'd rather see reporting of the news rather than a debate show attempting to make the news, but I never had a problem with Tucker Carlson. He's a smart guy, well spoken, and doesn't back down. So what if he leans to the right? What does Begala and Carville do?
 
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Phew, I thought one non raging liberal view point on the Clinton News Network was WAY too much. Glad we can have our DNC...er.......CNN back.

You know, normally I wouldn't agree with you here, because I think the whole idea of media bias is pretty silly, but why are they keeping everyone but him? It could be creative differences and the like, but Begala was just as vitriolic toward Stewart as Tucker Carlson was. I think John Stewart's role was simply a good "excuse" for CNN. I agree that I'd rather see reporting of the news rather than a debate show attempting to make the news, but I never had a problem with Tucker Carlson. He's a smart guy, well spoken, and doesn't back down. So what if he leans to the right? What does Begala and Carville do?
Not even close. I think you need to watch that clip again.
 
Originally posted by: aswedc
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Phew, I thought one non raging liberal view point on the Clinton News Network was WAY too much. Glad we can have our DNC...er.......CNN back.

You know, normally I wouldn't agree with you here, because I think the whole idea of media bias is pretty silly, but why are they keeping everyone but him? It could be creative differences and the like, but Begala was just as vitriolic toward Stewart as Tucker Carlson was. I think John Stewart's role was simply a good "excuse" for CNN. I agree that I'd rather see reporting of the news rather than a debate show attempting to make the news, but I never had a problem with Tucker Carlson. He's a smart guy, well spoken, and doesn't back down. So what if he leans to the right? What does Begala and Carville do?
Not even close. I think you need to watch that clip again.

That's because he's a pussy.
 
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Phew, I thought one non raging liberal view point on the Clinton News Network was WAY too much. Glad we can have our DNC...er.......CNN back.

You know, normally I wouldn't agree with you here, because I think the whole idea of media bias is pretty silly, but why are they keeping everyone but him? It could be creative differences and the like, but Begala was just as vitriolic toward Stewart as Tucker Carlson was. I think John Stewart's role was simply a good "excuse" for CNN. I agree that I'd rather see reporting of the news rather than a debate show attempting to make the news, but I never had a problem with Tucker Carlson. He's a smart guy, well spoken, and doesn't back down. So what if he leans to the right? What does Begala and Carville do?

Yeah, I'm being a little over the top, but Klein saying "I guess I come down more firmly in the Jon Stewart camp"? Come on. This guy is the CEO and he's picking camps? How about just report the freaking news, jerkhole?!
 
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Phew, I thought one non raging liberal view point on the Clinton News Network was WAY too much. Glad we can have our DNC...er.......CNN back.

You know, normally I wouldn't agree with you here, because I think the whole idea of media bias is pretty silly, but why are they keeping everyone but him? It could be creative differences and the like, but Begala was just as vitriolic toward Stewart as Tucker Carlson was. I think John Stewart's role was simply a good "excuse" for CNN. I agree that I'd rather see reporting of the news rather than a debate show attempting to make the news, but I never had a problem with Tucker Carlson. He's a smart guy, well spoken, and doesn't back down. So what if he leans to the right? What does Begala and Carville do?

Yeah, I'm being a little over the top, but Klein saying "I guess I come down more firmly in the Jon Stewart camp"? Come on. This guy is the CEO and he's picking camps? How about just report the freaking news, jerkhole?!

Um when he said he was in the 'Jon Stewart' camp, he meant he agreed with Stewart that shoutmatches for TV isn't news, not that he had the same political opinion as Jon Stewart.
 
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Phew, I thought one non raging liberal view point on the Clinton News Network was WAY too much. Glad we can have our DNC...er.......CNN back.

You know, normally I wouldn't agree with you here, because I think the whole idea of media bias is pretty silly, but why are they keeping everyone but him? It could be creative differences and the like, but Begala was just as vitriolic toward Stewart as Tucker Carlson was. I think John Stewart's role was simply a good "excuse" for CNN. I agree that I'd rather see reporting of the news rather than a debate show attempting to make the news, but I never had a problem with Tucker Carlson. He's a smart guy, well spoken, and doesn't back down. So what if he leans to the right? What does Begala and Carville do?

Yeah, I'm being a little over the top, but Klein saying "I guess I come down more firmly in the Jon Stewart camp"? Come on. This guy is the CEO and he's picking camps? How about just report the freaking news, jerkhole?!

You misunderstand Stewart's problems with Carlson and his ilk. Stewart hates these asshats because they put on a circus and pass it on for news reporting. Thus the next paragraph "He said all of the cable networks, including CNN, have overdosed on programming devoted to arguing over issues. Klein said he wants more substantive programming that is still compelling."

Not that I expect that to happen on any cable news network, though. Carville is weeeiiiirrrd and Robert Novak should be in jail for the Valerie Plame outing.
 
Originally posted by: aswedc
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Phew, I thought one non raging liberal view point on the Clinton News Network was WAY too much. Glad we can have our DNC...er.......CNN back.

You know, normally I wouldn't agree with you here, because I think the whole idea of media bias is pretty silly, but why are they keeping everyone but him? It could be creative differences and the like, but Begala was just as vitriolic toward Stewart as Tucker Carlson was. I think John Stewart's role was simply a good "excuse" for CNN. I agree that I'd rather see reporting of the news rather than a debate show attempting to make the news, but I never had a problem with Tucker Carlson. He's a smart guy, well spoken, and doesn't back down. So what if he leans to the right? What does Begala and Carville do?
Not even close. I think you need to watch that clip again.

No, I do not. I watched it more than once, and although Begala wasn't the focus of Stewart's attacks, he certainly did not defend him, and he was quite negative toward him. I've no doubt that it had to do with the fact that Tucker Carlson tends to be more antagonistic, and that Begala is more in tune with Stewart's political beliefs. I've no problem with Jon Stewart or his point(I pretty much agree), but saying Begala and Carville haven't been just as loud on the show is simply not true. Tucker Carlson wasn't fired because of that one incident. That was just a rationalization to justify it. If CNN wanted to do away with the argumentative type show then they shoud. Saying that only Tucker Carlson was the problem is naive in my opinion.

Tucker Carlson can do more than just debate people, but obviously CNN wanted him gone.
 
Originally posted by: Hardcore
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Phew, I thought one non raging liberal view point on the Clinton News Network was WAY too much. Glad we can have our DNC...er.......CNN back.

You know, normally I wouldn't agree with you here, because I think the whole idea of media bias is pretty silly, but why are they keeping everyone but him? It could be creative differences and the like, but Begala was just as vitriolic toward Stewart as Tucker Carlson was. I think John Stewart's role was simply a good "excuse" for CNN. I agree that I'd rather see reporting of the news rather than a debate show attempting to make the news, but I never had a problem with Tucker Carlson. He's a smart guy, well spoken, and doesn't back down. So what if he leans to the right? What does Begala and Carville do?

Yeah, I'm being a little over the top, but Klein saying "I guess I come down more firmly in the Jon Stewart camp"? Come on. This guy is the CEO and he's picking camps? How about just report the freaking news, jerkhole?!

Um when he said he was in the 'Jon Stewart' camp, he meant he agreed with Stewart that shoutmatches for TV isn't news, not that he had the same political opinion as Jon Stewart.

Right. That is what I took his comment as, however, why did he give everyone else a free pass except for Tucker Carlson?
 
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