Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
So I guess we can put an end to the endless shrieking about the so-called "Liberal MSM," right guys? Conservatives and Republicans have the most-watched cable news channel, 95% of the entire AM spectrum, approximately 1/2 of the big newspapers, and at least 1/2 of the blogosphere. Although, without the MSM to bash constantly, I have no idea what the GOP will have to talk about...
You confuse the number of viewers with the number of media outlets.
The only thing the number of viewers may demonstrate is that the 'Liberal MSM' is not as popular with viewers. It has no bearing on whether there is a 'Liberal MSM'.
I'm not sure what exactly qualifies as 'prime time', but to attribute CNN's poor ratings to running 'straight' news is dubious. Fox has 2 'straight' news shows during what I believe to be prime time. IIRC, MSNBC has none.
Fern
Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
I never really got the whole MSM liberal bias thing. Some people here actually think there's a vast conspiracy between all the media outlets, except Fox news, to portray liberal-leaning news? WTF would be the purpose of that or what the hell do they have to gain by doing that?
And to those saying PBS, are you serious?
Through Wednesday, Fox was averaging 2.73 million prime-time viewers in March. MSNBC had 1.16 million and CNN had 1.14 million. The March ratings period ends Friday, and it's doubtful CNN will be able to overcome MSNBC.
Originally posted by: PingSpike
Quality news comes from CNN? This is the channel that actually had a show about political blogs. That is not news, no one cares what a bunch of weiners posted on their blog.
Originally posted by: loki8481
it's sorta like being the biggest fish in a cup of water.
The conservative writer David Frum said Mr. Beck?s success ?is a product of the collapse of conservatism as an organized political force, and the rise of conservatism as an alienated cultural sensibility.? ?It?s a show for people who feel they belong to an embattled minority that is disenfranchised and cut off,? he said.
Originally posted by: jonks
Funny piece in the NYT on Glenn Beck.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03...l?_r=2&pagewanted=1&hp
why are people watching Glenn Beck?
The conservative writer David Frum said Mr. Beck?s success ?is a product of the collapse of conservatism as an organized political force, and the rise of conservatism as an alienated cultural sensibility.? ?It?s a show for people who feel they belong to an embattled minority that is disenfranchised and cut off,? he said.
And if you ask Republican strategist Mike Murphy, due to the shifting demographics in this country, Reps are on their way to permanent minority status. They may have a couple more cycles in them, but unless they come way around on some issues, forever marginalized will they be.
Originally posted by: Testify
Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
I never really got the whole MSM liberal bias thing. Some people here actually think there's a vast conspiracy between all the media outlets, except Fox news, to portray liberal-leaning news? WTF would be the purpose of that or what the hell do they have to gain by doing that?
And to those saying PBS, are you serious?
What is wrong with PBS? Imo, NewsHour is the only watchable evening news program on air right now.
Originally posted by: Carmen813
Through Wednesday, Fox was averaging 2.73 million prime-time viewers in March. MSNBC had 1.16 million and CNN had 1.14 million. The March ratings period ends Friday, and it's doubtful CNN will be able to overcome MSNBC.
All that says to me is that a little over 5 million people in this country should be required to complete a civics exam before voting.
I'm being mostly sarcastic.
Originally posted by: jonks
And if you ask Republican strategist Mike Murphy, due to the shifting demographics in this country, Reps are on their way to permanent minority status. They may have a couple more cycles in them, but unless they come way around on some issues, forever marginalized will they be.
Originally posted by: cubby1223
Originally posted by: jonks
And if you ask Republican strategist Mike Murphy, due to the shifting demographics in this country, Reps are on their way to permanent minority status. They may have a couple more cycles in them, but unless they come way around on some issues, forever marginalized will they be.
Honestly, given my reaction from the last Presidential election cycle, is that voters don't care at all about issues. John McCain lost because he was boring. John Kerry lost because he was boring. Al Gore lost because he was boring. Bob Dole lost because he was boring. "Issues" are rarely what drives voters' opinions.
The Republicans may be forever marginalized solely on the fact they don't have anyone to equal Obama's teleprompter.
There is a percentage of people who will vote Democrat on all elections, there is a percentage of people who will vote Republican on all elections. Then there is the majority of America who votes based on who is more interesting, who is the bigger "celebrity". I mean, do you think the Democratic stronghold of California voted the Republican Governator into office for his "policies" or "stand on issues"? I don't think so.
Originally posted by: cubby1223
^^^^
Republicans lose elections when they get lured into playing the political games of the Democrats.
If Republicans went back to their fiscal conservative base, they'd kick ass in elections.
Originally posted by: jonks
Right, when Republicans lose, it's the Democrats fault, and not their own.
Originally posted by: jonks
And what's wrong is a hell of a lot more than just their loss of focus on fiscal responsibility.