Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
It was kind of sickening to watch McCain's defeat speech, though. McCain was fine, but his supporters booing Obama and yelling things out - it was just uncalled for. I think McCain is a pretty honorable guy and it weighed on him that his supporters were taking the defeat so badly - you could see the disappointment in him when he had to silence the crowd.
I agree, that was the Mccain I liked 8 years ago. He gave a hell of a concession speech and it hurt to hear whoever the drunk fratboys were in the crowd that couldn't be solemn for 5 minutes.
I would have voted for Mccain over Gore in 2000, but never got the chance and after that election and what happened in the republican primary he was pitted against Bush. He bucked a few times, but shortly into the Bush presidency, the Republicans smacked Mccain down hard and made him make nice with Bush and behave. Mccain was never the same after that. He had to make too many concessions to stop the attacks from the far right of the party and the fundies.
When it came to his campaign it only got worse. He finally got to run for president and I don't feel like he got to make his run for it. He had to appease too many people on the far right, was forced by the RNC to flip on too many of his positions that most appealed to independents and ended up watered down.
And is thus why I voted for McCain, and is why I hate the dual-party politics. Too many people to please, too many trying to 'keep you in line', and forces issues to be merely opposites.
Would much rather a multi-party system, one in which McCain surely would have been in a different party.
And I do think McCain's actual actions would have been different from his spoken concepts. He had to please the GOP and maintain popularity, while trying to get his own thoughts on subjects accounted for as well. Very difficult, but once president, I can bet some of his ideas would have had some Dem's in agreement, and some Repub's.
On a different note, my biggest fear at the moment is Congress voting to completely pull out of Iraq and Afghan very soon. Bad idea, although we're nearing the point if progress is continually made. Pulling out now would be terrible and result in the loss of all the work that's been made. Media has simply fucked everything up, and bad management on the ground in the early years of the war didn't help. Don't subscribe to everything the media says as all that is happening in Iraq - the good things aren't full of blood and hatred, and don't get media attention. Can't get attention if it doesn't fuel the anti-war debate.
Sure, we all want the war to end, but on the right terms. I do think Obama, through the way he has addressed the topic, wants it to end well too, and likely won't be in favor of a hasty withdrawal. We'll see though.