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[Kwaipie]

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Paul McNulty, the No. 2 person at the Justice Department, submitted his resignation to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales

No doubt Paul wants to spend more time with his family. :disgust:

 

[conjur]

http://www.wtopnews.com/index.php?nid=116&sid=1140579

WASHINGTON (AP) - Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty said Monday he will resign, the highest-ranking Bush administration casualty in the furor over the firing of U.S. attorneys, The Associated Press has learned.

McNulty, who has served 18 months as the Justice Department's second-in-command, announced his plans at a closed-door meeting of U.S. attorneys in San Antonio, according to two senior department aides. He said he will remain at the department until this fall or until the Senate approves a successor, the aides said.

McNulty could not be immediately reached for comment Monday. Justice aides said he has been considering leaving for months and never intended to serve more than two years as deputy attorney general....

Get that man subpoenaed and under oath!

 

[sandorski]

Or get rehabbed for Alcoholism. How long until Alberto follows?

 

[jpeyton]

:thumbsup:

Gonzales is next!

 

[OutHouse]

who was our last AG that didnt suck?

 

[dahunan]

I just watched a movie last night that reminds me of the Bush Admin

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118887/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cop_Land

 

[Lemon law]

The 800 pound Gorilla in the room is and remains Monica Goodling. And the question is if McNulty will be implicated by Goodling in ethical or criminal charges. And by extension will Gonzales now catch the same from Goodling or McNulty?

Which begs that other 64 thousand dollar question---when will Goodling start her testimony on Capital Hill regarding the already signed, sealed, and delivered immunity deal?

And as a last speculation, its also an odd resignation reason. To be home for the kids just when they start their super expensive college education makes zero sense. Just at a time when his saving are about to be reamed by the tender mercies of various colleges, one would think it important to have a regular income. And if McNulty now needs an attorney to defend himself from possible charges, that depletes his savings at an even faster rate. And for the duration of the scandal, he will be unable to obtain a new job if he is required to regularly testify before congressional committees.

Maybe not the deserved fate of a dedicated public servant but certainly just deserts if he has been excessively partisan when he should have been ethical and honest.

 

[PokerGuy]

Interesting development. Any takers on the over/under wager on how long Gonzales holds out?

 

[WhipperSnapper]

C'mon Congress. Take these Bush varmints down!

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: Lemon law

And as a last speculation, its also an odd resignation reason. To be home for the kids just when they start their super expensive college education makes zero sense. Just at a time when his saving are about to be reamed by the tender mercies of various colleges, one would think it important to have a regular income. And if McNulty now needs an attorney to defend himself from possible charges, that depletes his savings at an even faster rate. And for the duration of the scandal, he will be unable to obtain a new job if he is required to regularly testify before congressional committees.

Maybe not the deserved fate of a dedicated public servant but certainly just deserts if he has been excessively partisan when he should have been ethical and honest.

Leaving now before the mud is slung allows him to land at a private firm on his own rules.

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
The 800 pound Gorilla in the room is and remains Monica Goodling. And the question is if McNulty will be implicated by Goodling in ethical or criminal charges. And by extension will Gonzales now catch the same from Goodling or McNulty?

Which begs that other 64 thousand dollar question---when will Goodling start her testimony on Capital Hill regarding the already signed, sealed, and delivered immunity deal?

And as a last speculation, its also an odd resignation reason. To be home for the kids just when they start their super expensive college education makes zero sense. Just at a time when his saving are about to be reamed by the tender mercies of various colleges, one would think it important to have a regular income. And if McNulty now needs an attorney to defend himself from possible charges, that depletes his savings at an even faster rate. And for the duration of the scandal, he will be unable to obtain a new job if he is required to regularly testify before congressional committees.

Maybe not the deserved fate of a dedicated public servant but certainly just deserts if he has been excessively partisan when he should have been ethical and honest.

Blah blah blah blah blah blah.......

All you lefties do is talk (hope) of Bushies going to prison.....for I dunno......how long now? Yet it hasn't happened yet......and it won't......but you'll still hope......and I'll still laugh. :laugh:

 

[PokerGuy]

Originally posted by: Corn
Blah blah blah blah blah blah.......

All you lefties do is talk (hope) of Bushies going to prison.....for I dunno......how long now? Yet it hasn't happened yet......and it won't......but you'll still hope......and I'll still laugh. :laugh:

I am by no means a "leftie" (I'm more of a right-of-center libertarian kind of guy), but does the name Scooter ring a bell? How about Duke Cunningham? Perhaps Abramof? etc etc. There will be more. With the republicans holding every branch of government (absolute power), many gave in to the temptation of power and went too far. None of the big fish will fall -- they all have their asses well covered -- but there will be lots more, even with the dems holding only a small majority.

In the next election, there will be over 20 republican seats up in the senate, while only 12 dem seats. That spells bad news for the republicans, they are going to get trounced. I don't like that at all, because it puts us in the exact same situation where the president and congress are in the same party, allowing stupidity to go unchecked.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Lemon law
The 800 pound Gorilla in the room is and remains Monica Goodling. And the question is if McNulty will be implicated by Goodling in ethical or criminal charges. And by extension will Gonzales now catch the same from Goodling or McNulty?

Which begs that other 64 thousand dollar question---when will Goodling start her testimony on Capital Hill regarding the already signed, sealed, and delivered immunity deal?

And as a last speculation, its also an odd resignation reason. To be home for the kids just when they start their super expensive college education makes zero sense. Just at a time when his saving are about to be reamed by the tender mercies of various colleges, one would think it important to have a regular income. And if McNulty now needs an attorney to defend himself from possible charges, that depletes his savings at an even faster rate. And for the duration of the scandal, he will be unable to obtain a new job if he is required to regularly testify before congressional committees.

Maybe not the deserved fate of a dedicated public servant but certainly just deserts if he has been excessively partisan when he should have been ethical and honest.

Blah blah blah blah blah blah.......

All you lefties do is talk (hope) of Bushies going to prison.....for I dunno......how long now? Yet it hasn't happened yet......and it won't......but you'll still hope......and I'll still laugh. :laugh:

What should we talk about when the government is run by people acting criminally?

Whether or not any go to jail, it's the thing to be talking about. (Even though, as PokerGuy noted, many have been convicted, the tip of the iceberg).

 

[Lemon law]

To Corn,

Are you old enough to remember watergate? You are probably old enough to remember right wing republicans slathering for Clinton's scalp. So spout the conventional wisdom all you want, its still a question of who laughs in the end.

I, at least, am asking the hypothetical questions and not making flat out predictions on the certain result like you are. I am perfectly willing to concede you MAY BE RIGHT, but you ARE SETTING YOURSELF UP TO LOOK VERY FOOLISH IF YOU ARE WRONG.

GWB&co. lost a very important protection when they lost the election of 11/06. And the current stakes are a little higher than a mere BJ.

 

[Phokus]

Amazing how the party of small government is now the party that turns a blind eye towards government corruption, eh corn?

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Lemon law
The 800 pound Gorilla in the room is and remains Monica Goodling. And the question is if McNulty will be implicated by Goodling in ethical or criminal charges. And by extension will Gonzales now catch the same from Goodling or McNulty?

Which begs that other 64 thousand dollar question---when will Goodling start her testimony on Capital Hill regarding the already signed, sealed, and delivered immunity deal?

And as a last speculation, its also an odd resignation reason. To be home for the kids just when they start their super expensive college education makes zero sense. Just at a time when his saving are about to be reamed by the tender mercies of various colleges, one would think it important to have a regular income. And if McNulty now needs an attorney to defend himself from possible charges, that depletes his savings at an even faster rate. And for the duration of the scandal, he will be unable to obtain a new job if he is required to regularly testify before congressional committees.

Maybe not the deserved fate of a dedicated public servant but certainly just deserts if he has been excessively partisan when he should have been ethical and honest.

Blah blah blah blah blah blah.......

All you lefties do is talk (hope) of Bushies going to prison.....for I dunno......how long now? Yet it hasn't happened yet......and it won't......but you'll still hope......and I'll still laugh. :laugh:

I agree with Corn. The best we can hope for, in my opinion, is that he will leave office well recognized as the biggest piece of sh!t ever to hold the office and that the fools who voted for him because they are emotionally dead and have therefore, no intuitive insight into other people and the obvious disaster he represented, will have the good humility to cease to believe, in future, in their own insane opinions.

 

[Lemon law]

There is at least a certain irony with MCNulty, Samson, and Goodling--and possibly Gonzales Rove, and others. They had no problems with being in power and causing other people to lose their jobs prematurely with all the disruption to other lives's that a unexpected firing entails----and here they are months later and they find themselves in exactly the same no job boat----not only does it entail the loss of a job, but their reputations will also be besmirched to a far greater extent than the ones they fired. If nothing else---some advance empathy and soul searching would have been advisable. And we see from the link that McNulty did have some misgivings---but went ahead and did it anyway.

Wasn't it Jesus who said---let he who is without sin cast the first stone?---or judge not lest ye be judged.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: Phokus
Amazing how the party of small government is now the party that turns a blind eye towards government corruption, eh corn?

:laugh:

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: PokerGuy

Originally posted by: Corn
Blah blah blah blah blah blah.......

All you lefties do is talk (hope) of Bushies going to prison.....for I dunno......how long now? Yet it hasn't happened yet......and it won't......but you'll still hope......and I'll still laugh. :laugh:

I am by no means a "leftie" (I'm more of a right-of-center libertarian kind of guy), but does the name Scooter ring a bell? How about Duke Cunningham? Perhaps Abramof? etc etc. There will be more. With the republicans holding every branch of government (absolute power), many gave in to the temptation of power and went too far. None of the big fish will fall -- they all have their asses well covered -- but there will be lots more, even with the dems holding only a small majority.

In the next election, there will be over 20 republican seats up in the senate, while only 12 dem seats. That spells bad news for the republicans, they are going to get trounced. I don't like that at all, because it puts us in the exact same situation where the president and congress are in the same party, allowing stupidity to go unchecked.

When did Abramof and Cunningham become part of the Bush administration (AKA a Bushie)? Libby's felony convictions pale in comparison to the rabid high fiveing slam dunk Rove spends the rest of his life in pound me in the ass prison goings on here ad nauseam for 2 years. what-evar........

 

[sierrita]

Ruh-roh, Rorn in the rouse!

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
To Corn,

Are you old enough to remember watergate? You are probably old enough to remember right wing republicans slathering for Clinton's scalp. So spout the conventional wisdom all you want, its still a question of who laughs in the end.

I, at least, am asking the hypothetical questions and not making flat out predictions on the certain result like you are. I am perfectly willing to concede you MAY BE RIGHT, but you ARE SETTING YOURSELF UP TO LOOK VERY FOOLISH IF YOU ARE WRONG.

GWB&co. lost a very important protection when they lost the election of 11/06. And the current stakes are a little higher than a mere BJ.

Big deal, so I'll look foolish. At least I don't wear my heart on a sleeve nearly subsisting solely on partisan fighting. You and I have about the same number of posts, yet I've been here 6 years longer than you.

So yes, maybe one day I'll look foolish for one or two comments I've made here.....hell, maybe even 4 or five.....while you look foolish spending you life away here hoping against hope for political payback against an enemy who probably respects your rights and freedoms equally as compared to whom you are supposedly aligned with. We all lose in the end, but at least I have a life.

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
There is at least a certain irony with MCNulty, Samson, and Goodling--and possibly Gonzales Rove, and others. They had no problems with being in power and causing other people to lose their jobs prematurely with all the disruption to other lives's that a unexpected firing entails----and here they are months later and they find themselves in exactly the same no job boat----not only does it entail the loss of a job, but their reputations will also be besmirched to a far greater extent than the ones they fired. If nothing else---some advance empathy and soul searching would have been advisable. And we see from the link that McNulty did have some misgivings---but went ahead and did it anyway.

Wasn't it Jesus who said---let he who is without sin cast the first stone?---or judge not lest ye be judged.

Unintended irony FTW! Perhaps you would likewise benefit from following Jesus' words. :laugh:

 

[Lemon law]

To Corn---who asks--When did Abramof and Cunningham become part of the Bush administration (AKA a Bushie)?

In case it escaped your notice, Abramoff made numerous visits to the white house and was seen with Rove and GWB. They were thick as thieves as they say.

In case it escaped your notice, there is a rather strong allegation that the Cunningham bribe was bought and paid for with white house connivance and taxpayer money.

And these and other allegation are currently under investigation---maybe you should ask Henry Waxman---but Waxman is not a partisan motor mouth, when and if he has the goods,
you can figure some high level Bushies--up to and including GWB are going to jail.

You Corn do not understand how investigations work---in Watergate it took the better part of eighteen months to get the goods on Nixon. Congress has only been at it for four months and much of that time has been spent in getting the staffing aboard.

 

[dahunan]

Corn has admitted that coming in here to try and rile up democrats and liberals is a FETISH OF HIS

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
To Corn---who asks--When did Abramof and Cunningham become part of the Bush administration (AKA a Bushie)?

In case it escaped your notice, Abramoff made numerous visits to the white house and was seen with Rove and GWB. They were thick as thieves as they say.

In case it escaped your notice, there is a rather strong allegation that the Cunningham bribe was bought and paid for with white house connivance and taxpayer money.

And these and other allegation are currently under investigation---maybe you should ask Henry Waxman---but Waxman is not a partisan motor mouth, when and if he has the goods,
you can figure some high level Bushies--up to and including GWB are going to jail.

You Corn do not understand how investigations work---in Watergate it took the better part of eighteen months to get the goods on Nixon. Congress has only been at it for four months and much of that time has been spent in getting the staffing aboard.

Yeah........:roll:

edit. Funny, what exactly is a "strong allegation"? Would that be an allegation without any corroborating evidence? Or is it simply because a libtard said it, therefore it must be true?