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[alien42]

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reading this makes me absolutely sick to my stomach. sexual abuse of a child is bad enough, by a priest is even worse, and to top it all off...

"Father Jeff was charged with 10 criminal counts of child sexual abuse in relation to my case. He asked for a plea and admitted his guilt in court. He was sentenced to five years in jail but only served 10 months. He was released early to serve eight months in home detention."

WTF is wrong with our criminal justice system that this beast doesnt even serve a year in prison yet thousands of people are incarcerated for years for non-violent and harmless crimes such as possession of marijuana.

i dont want to hear about banning flag burning or gay marriage when we have real problems such as this, yet i never hear any politicians even speak of this problem.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: alien42
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reading this makes me absolutely sick to my stomach. sexual abuse of a child is bad enough, by a priest is even worse, and to top it all off...

"Father Jeff was charged with 10 criminal counts of child sexual abuse in relation to my case. He asked for a plea and admitted his guilt in court. He was sentenced to five years in jail but only served 10 months. He was released early to serve eight months in home detention."

WTF is wrong with our criminal justice system that this beast doesnt even serve a year in prison yet thousands of people are incarcerated for years for non-violent and harmless crimes such as possession of marijuana.

The system is paid for just like the Politicians bought by Corporations and Churches.

Pretty cut and dry.

 

[imported_Shivetya]

Originally posted by: alien42
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i dont want to hear about banning flag burning or gay marriage when we have real problems such as this, yet i never hear any politicians even speak of this problem.

Because child abuse by priests is not a large problem. Its rare enough (by numbers) compared to other types of child abuse that it makes a big splash when it comes out.

WTF is wrong with our criminal justice system that this beast doesnt even serve a year in prison yet thousands of people are incarcerated for years for non-violent and harmless crimes such as possession of marijuana.

because we have this war on drugs for way too long and politicians are loathe to change it for fear of not winning reelection. One of the lasting legacies of Nixon was creating the DEA which being typical of a government organization needed more crimes to justify its existance.

 

[nutxo]

Its pretty sad when people have to worry about sending kids to what have always been considered the 2 safest places.

Church and school

 

[DealMonkey]

Ahh yes the Catholic Church - the world's largest collection of pedophiles and sexual predators.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Ahh yes the Catholic Church - the world's largest collection of pedophiles and sexual predators.

I love how you take isolated incidents and extrapolate that to cover the entire religion! Fascinating!


Sound familiar?
:laugh:

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Ahh yes the Catholic Church - the world's largest collection of pedophiles and sexual predators.

Well a normal man wouldn't want a life of celebacy and they don't allow women to be Priests so the pickings for Priests are rather questionable.

 

[alien42]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Ahh yes the Catholic Church - the world's largest collection of pedophiles and sexual predators.

I love how you take isolated incidents and extrapolate that to cover the entire religion! Fascinating!


Sound familiar?
:laugh:

considering that catholic priests have a much higher avg for being pedos than the rest of society, i would say he has a valid point. ever think that the religion is part of the problem or is that too logical?

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: alien42

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Ahh yes the Catholic Church - the world's largest collection of pedophiles and sexual predators.

I love how you take isolated incidents and extrapolate that to cover the entire religion! Fascinating!


Sound familiar?
:laugh:

considering that catholic priests have a much higher avg for being pedos than the rest of society, i would say he has a valid point. ever think that the religion is part of the problem or is that too logical?

He is taking isolated incidents and using that to judge the entire religion....

Lets assume for a minute that you have a higher percent of Democratic voters in prison than you do Republican voters. Would it be acceptable to say "Ahh yes the Democratic party - the world's largest collection of criminals and felons."? Or how about the fact that these men that molest little boys are obviously gay, is it ok to say "Ahh yes the gay community - the world's largest collection of pedophiles and sexual predators."?

And no, I do not think that religion is part of the problem when it comes to pedophiles and sexual predators. Using your logic, I could ask you if you think that being gay is part of the problem.

 

[CycloWizard]

Originally posted by: JD50
He is taking isolated incidents and using that to judge the entire religion....

Lets assume for a minute that you have a higher percent of Democratic voters in prison than you do Republican voters. Would it be acceptable to say "Ahh yes the Democratic party - the world's largest collection of criminals and felons."? Or how about the fact that these men that molest little boys are obviously gay, is it ok to say "Ahh yes the gay community - the world's largest collection of pedophiles and sexual predators."?

And no, I do not think that religion is part of the problem when it comes to pedophiles and sexual predators. Using your logic, I could ask you if you think that being gay is part of the problem.

I believe that this is what you're referring to - the fallacy of hasty generalization.

It's funny that people insist on saying that it's a pedophilia problem. When was the last time a young girl was involved? It's obviously a problem of homosexuality rather than pedophilia, but seemingly no one wants to call it that because right now, homosexuality falls within the circle of political correctness and pedophilia falls outside. I suppose it's easier to dwell in the past instead of looking at what has been done to rectify the situation.

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: CycloWizard

Originally posted by: JD50
He is taking isolated incidents and using that to judge the entire religion....

Lets assume for a minute that you have a higher percent of Democratic voters in prison than you do Republican voters. Would it be acceptable to say "Ahh yes the Democratic party - the world's largest collection of criminals and felons."? Or how about the fact that these men that molest little boys are obviously gay, is it ok to say "Ahh yes the gay community - the world's largest collection of pedophiles and sexual predators."?

And no, I do not think that religion is part of the problem when it comes to pedophiles and sexual predators. Using your logic, I could ask you if you think that being gay is part of the problem.

I believe that this is what you're referring to - the fallacy of hasty generalization.

It's funny that people insist on saying that it's a pedophilia problem. When was the last time a young girl was involved? It's obviously a problem of homosexuality rather than pedophilia, but seemingly no one wants to call it that because right now, homosexuality falls within the circle of political correctness and pedophilia falls outside. I suppose it's easier to dwell in the past instead of looking at what has been done to rectify the situation.

I have the same problem with calling student-teacher sex, and even sex with post-puberty youngsters 'pedophilia'. It may not be 'right', but it isn't pedophilia, it's something else.

 

[ericlp]

Originally posted by: nutxo
Its pretty sad when people have to worry about sending kids to what have always been considered the 2 safest places.

Church and school

Yes it is SAD...

But reality is... Now you know the power of Sex addiction of humans... Sex is one of the biggest drives besides money. Now we should continue to teach Sex Ed classes in grade schools and pass out condoms and be shown how to use them effectively.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: JD50
He is taking isolated incidents and using that to judge the entire religion....

Lets assume for a minute that you have a higher percent of Democratic voters in prison than you do Republican voters. Would it be acceptable to say "Ahh yes the Democratic party - the world's largest collection of criminals and felons."? Or how about the fact that these men that molest little boys are obviously gay, is it ok to say "Ahh yes the gay community - the world's largest collection of pedophiles and sexual predators."?

And no, I do not think that religion is part of the problem when it comes to pedophiles and sexual predators. Using your logic, I could ask you if you think that being gay is part of the problem.

I believe I was making a joke ... perhaps you've heard of it? Sadly though, the actions of the Catholic Church are not so funny.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: CycloWizard

Originally posted by: JD50
He is taking isolated incidents and using that to judge the entire religion....

Lets assume for a minute that you have a higher percent of Democratic voters in prison than you do Republican voters. Would it be acceptable to say "Ahh yes the Democratic party - the world's largest collection of criminals and felons."? Or how about the fact that these men that molest little boys are obviously gay, is it ok to say "Ahh yes the gay community - the world's largest collection of pedophiles and sexual predators."?

And no, I do not think that religion is part of the problem when it comes to pedophiles and sexual predators. Using your logic, I could ask you if you think that being gay is part of the problem.

I believe that this is what you're referring to - the fallacy of hasty generalization.

It's funny that people insist on saying that it's a pedophilia problem. When was the last time a young girl was involved? It's obviously a problem of homosexuality rather than pedophilia, but seemingly no one wants to call it that because right now, homosexuality falls within the circle of political correctness and pedophilia falls outside. I suppose it's easier to dwell in the past instead of looking at what has been done to rectify the situation.

You do understand the definition of "pedophilia" don't you? Or is this a textbook Clinton-esque defense and a fun game of semantics?

Here you go: Pedophilia: "The act or fantasy on the part of an adult of engaging in sexual activity with a child or children."

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Ahh yes the Catholic Church - the world's largest collection of pedophiles and sexual predators.

I love how you take isolated incidents and extrapolate that to cover the entire religion! Fascinating!


Sound familiar?
:laugh:

Not really. These aren't "isolated incidents." Not by a long-shot. There are thousands of these cases involving the Catholic Church going back decades. There was a tacit complicity within the church to allow these things to go on, even to the point of merely transferring priests who had been caught to different churches so they could continue on their merry child-abusing way.

Outside of NAMBLA, can you think of one other organization that so systematically preyed on children for sexual acts?

If so, please elaborate.

 

[alien42]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: alien42

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Ahh yes the Catholic Church - the world's largest collection of pedophiles and sexual predators.

I love how you take isolated incidents and extrapolate that to cover the entire religion! Fascinating!


Sound familiar?
:laugh:

considering that catholic priests have a much higher avg for being pedos than the rest of society, i would say he has a valid point. ever think that the religion is part of the problem or is that too logical?

He is taking isolated incidents and using that to judge the entire religion....

Lets assume for a minute that you have a higher percent of Democratic voters in prison than you do Republican voters. Would it be acceptable to say "Ahh yes the Democratic party - the world's largest collection of criminals and felons."? Or how about the fact that these men that molest little boys are obviously gay, is it ok to say "Ahh yes the gay community - the world's largest collection of pedophiles and sexual predators."?

And no, I do not think that religion is part of the problem when it comes to pedophiles and sexual predators. Using your logic, I could ask you if you think that being gay is part of the problem.

reality is the church has known about the problem for a long time and they historically covered it up. now that all these convictions are becoming reality all the diocese are filing for bankruptcy to avoid paying the settlements. this is the same organization that is setting the moral standards for its followers? thats a joke.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Ahh yes the Catholic Church - the world's largest collection of pedophiles and sexual predators.

I love how you take isolated incidents and extrapolate that to cover the entire religion! Fascinating!


Sound familiar?
:laugh:

Not really. These aren't "isolated incidents." Not by a long-shot. There are thousands of these cases involving the Catholic Church going back decades. There was a tacit complicity within the church to allow these things to go on, even to the point of merely transferring priests who had been caught to different churches so they could continue on their merry child-abusing way.

Outside of NAMBLA, can you think of one other organization that so systematically preyed on children for sexual acts?

If so, please elaborate.

The gay community?

 

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Ahh yes the Catholic Church - the world's largest collection of pedophiles and sexual predators.

I love how you take isolated incidents and extrapolate that to cover the entire religion! Fascinating!


Sound familiar?
:laugh:

Not really. These aren't "isolated incidents." Not by a long-shot. There are thousands of these cases involving the Catholic Church going back decades. There was a tacit complicity within the church to allow these things to go on, even to the point of merely transferring priests who had been caught to different churches so they could continue on their merry child-abusing way.

Outside of NAMBLA, can you think of one other organization that so systematically preyed on children for sexual acts?

If so, please elaborate.

The gay community?

You are a sad little man...

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Ahh yes the Catholic Church - the world's largest collection of pedophiles and sexual predators.

I love how you take isolated incidents and extrapolate that to cover the entire religion! Fascinating!


Sound familiar?
:laugh:

Not really. These aren't "isolated incidents." Not by a long-shot. There are thousands of these cases involving the Catholic Church going back decades. There was a tacit complicity within the church to allow these things to go on, even to the point of merely transferring priests who had been caught to different churches so they could continue on their merry child-abusing way.

Outside of NAMBLA, can you think of one other organization that so systematically preyed on children for sexual acts?

If so, please elaborate.

The gay community?

You are a sad little man...

I didn't start the generalizations in this thread, I guess its ok to portray catholicism as a religion of pedophiles and sex predators.....thanks for making my point for me...

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: alien42

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Ahh yes the Catholic Church - the world's largest collection of pedophiles and sexual predators.

I love how you take isolated incidents and extrapolate that to cover the entire religion! Fascinating!


Sound familiar?
:laugh:

considering that catholic priests have a much higher avg for being pedos than the rest of society, i would say he has a valid point. ever think that the religion is part of the problem or is that too logical?

Muslims have a much higher rate of becoming terrorists. But if we blame the religion we have hell to pay... why the double standard?

 

[UberNeuman]

Your welcome. I also find it stomach turning that you're always posting little in threads where the subject is about grave matters.....

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: alien42

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Ahh yes the Catholic Church - the world's largest collection of pedophiles and sexual predators.

I love how you take isolated incidents and extrapolate that to cover the entire religion! Fascinating!


Sound familiar?
:laugh:

considering that catholic priests have a much higher avg for being pedos than the rest of society, i would say he has a valid point. ever think that the religion is part of the problem or is that too logical?

Muslims have a much higher rate of becoming terrorists. But if we blame the religion we have hell to pay... why the double standard?

Islam has a credibility problem, just like catholocism, in that each has tacitly supported something that is unsupportable.

More to the point in terms of discriminating against muslims, would it be okay to arbitrarilly lock up any catholic (or at least any priest) on supposed suspicion of child molestation?

I certainly don't think so.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Your welcome. I also find it stomach turning that you're always posting little in threads where the subject matter is about grave subject matter.....

I posted the :laugh: because that is basically the exact same thing that DealMonkey said in a thread about Democrats raising taxes...

Anyways, since you are the new smiley Police, you might want to go check out some of Harveys posts...

I'm still a little curious, why weren't you critizing those that try and portray the Catholic religion as a culture of pedophiles and sexual predators?

 

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: JD50
I'm still a little curious, why weren't you critizing those that try and portray the Catholic religion as a culture of pedophiles and sexual predators?

Why aren't you criticizing the Catholic Church for hiding the truth of the abuses over the years, and in fact, aiding it by moving Priests to different parishes once discovered to have been abusing children?

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: JD50
I'm still a little curious, why weren't you critizing those that try and portray the Catholic religion as a culture of pedophiles and sexual predators?

Why aren't you criticizing the Catholic Church for hiding the truth of the abuses over the years, and in fact, aiding it by moving Priests to different parishes once discovered to have been abusing children?

I have plenty of times, its absolutely disgusting but in no way representitve of the Catholic religion as a whole. I did not jump into this thread bashing gays and calling them all sexual predators, I came into this thread because of the blatant hypocrisy shown by certain people when it comes to pedophelia, catholicism, and gays. You just happened to jump in at the right time to further prove it.