CNET's WinXP review..

[TegSkywalker]

After reading the review over at http://cnet.com/software/0-6688749-8-7007240-1.html I can honestly say that I will be sticking with Windows 2000 for a long time.

I mean.. i knew about the Passport and Win Media Player and Messenger, but actually hearing about it in action and getting full results on what it actually does really makes me come to the conclusion that Microsoft just cant improve on things anymore offernig totally innovatiive products.

I mean take a look at IE6. Its two years after IE 5.0, but nothing has really changed that much! In that two years, they could have added much more web programming support such as full CSS2 and so much more to list, its crazy! Dont get me started on Office XP...

Maybe its time to switch to Linux or OSX...

 

[noninterleaved]

Why would you want to step back to Linux or OS X??

You are running Win2k, the best desktop operating out there right now. Period.

 

[randal]

[nods head]

w3rd

randal

 

[Chatterjee]

innovation on the desktop is halting these days for microsoft. so much so that they have to work with unpredictable technologies like passport and hailstorm. As a side business, instead of twiddling their thumbs they are going out and auditing small businesses and educational institutions.

In the meanwhile, Linux groups and companies are working on solutions that will mimick and compete with the Windows desktop. Sooner or later, they will be strong competitors on the desktop.

It'll happen slowly but it will happen. Microsoft skeptics say the opposite. It'll happen but it will happen slowly.

-S

 

[TegSkywalker]

noninterleaved, I didn't mean it as a "stepping back to Linux" but in the way that it would be cool to try and learn that OS as well. I still have Windows 2000 as my main OS (which is still my favorite Windows) and it would probably be that way for a while.

Linux does look tempting though.. like something to install on another machine or hard drive to learn and tinker with

 

[gunf1ghter]

Run WinXP final for a week.... regardless of what the reviews say ... and see if you are still ready to go back to Win2K. I couldn't.

 

[TegSkywalker]

Well, I'm not in the mood to spend another heap of cash on a new OS when I just got Win2k. I'll just wait until they patch it up (like 98SE) then I may consider taking a look at it.

You can have you cutesy interface with your pretty blues and greens and product activation and .NET controlling your browsing, but I'll just sit here pretty with my copy of Windows 2000.

 

[StuckMojo]

The enhancements aren't just visual; some of them make XP easier to use than previous Windows versions. For example, if you open four or five Microsoft Word or Explorer windows, XP groups all the windows for each application under a single button. Click the Word button, for instance, and you'll see a pop-up window with a list of all your open documents.


nice...a DIRECT theft from the GNOME desktop.
MS chumps.

 

[gunf1ghter]

Not to mention the entirely task oriented way that files are now handled.... a true leap forward IMHO

 

[StuckMojo]

http://cnet.com/software/0-6688749-8-7007240-11.html?tag=st.sw.6688749-8-7007240-2.txt.6688749-8-7007240-11

ahhahahahha!!
look in the bottom left corner of that sceenshot! see the DeCSS folder?? hahaha! CNET reviewers illegally decoding DVD movies! hehe.

 

[schuang74]

Sorry to pick at your first post Teg, but why OSX? You would have to change everything, including hardware. Passport, Media Player and Messanger may not be innovative, but if you don't like them don't use them. I own 2000 myself and I despise Media Player. I wouldn't hold that against Windows 2000. As far ans nothing really changing in IE6 from 5, cosmetic differences may be few and far between, but the browser holds better support for Active X, DHTML, and XML, all the latest and greatest in web development and internet applications. I would hate to have to look at the same static pages day in and day out.

I love Windows 2000, and I am looking forward to XP Pro. I am a heavy gamer, and 2000 although stable still cannot out perform the same hardware on a windows 98SE build. Don't get me wrong, the game is still very playable, it just bugs me that I could be running it at faster FPS (even if it's just another 5 to 10 frames). Heh I know it's stupid, but that's how I feel.

Anyhow give it a chance, who knows you may just like it.

 

[StuckMojo]

ActiveX is not the the latest and greatest internet application anything.
it is windows only. that doesnt just mean no linux, it means no unix, osX, macOS, palm, OS/2, Irix, sun OS, AIX, and more. nothing but windows desktops.
no thanks, i'll stick with java.

 

[schuang74]

I hate to tell ya this but Active X may have been around for a while, but the support for it in recent versions of IE have sucked the big one. IE6 adds better support for Active X applications. Sun isn't really fulfilling their promises on the "Power of Java". Java code is still concidered slow and rather bloated by many developers. When I worked for Corell a few years back they had started to design an Java based Office Package. After several years of development, the project was dumped because Java was such a bandwidth hog, and the application just wasn't usable off the web. Java Script rocks, but that's not real java anyway. Java as a developing program language is starting to sink. Active X seems to be what's hot now. Stick with Java, go for the caffeine rush!

 

[StuckMojo]

java has drawbacks. but you're comparing apples to oranges.
who the f*&k would ever write an office suitein ActiveX? therefore you can't say that java sucks and activex is great because java wasn't suitable for writing an office suite.

 

[StuckMojo]

btw, activex apps don't even run in explorer. they are really COM objects, and programs in their own right. explorer just downloads them. that's why you can't run activeX apps in IE on the mac.

 

[noninterleaved]

<< java has drawbacks. but you're comparing apples to oranges.
who the f*&k would ever write an office suitein ActiveX? therefore you can't say that java sucks and activex is great because java wasn't suitable for writing an office suite. >>



You said it yourself, ActiveX is basically COM.

You would be surprised how much of Office IS COM.

COM is fast... DirectX is entirely COM based, that is how fast it is.... damn near real-time.

 

[noninterleaved]

<< In the meanwhile, Linux groups and companies are working on solutions that will mimick and compete with the Windows desktop. Sooner or later, they will be strong competitors on the desktop. >>



Hmm... Linux will MIMICK Windows, eh? This is why they will always be one step behind on the desktop. Wait for MS to take the plunge with new UI enhancements (task panes, task-oriented filesystems, integrated cd-burning... etc etc etc)... then the Linux community in their hatred of Windows will come up with something that works half as well, and expect people to use it just because it is NOT Microsoft.

Give me a break. Do you think the average user cares if it is Windows or Linux, they just want to get their work or play done. Linux is still WAY behind in both categories.

 

[vash]

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ahhahahahha!!
look in the bottom left corner of that sceenshot! see the DeCSS folder?? hahaha! CNET reviewers illegally decoding DVD movies! hehe. >>

Hey now! You have a good eye! I like that screenshots alrite. Maybe they weren't doing DVD decoding, maybe they have some piece of software on there that is just-so-named the same.

vash