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UncleWai

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COMCAST, FVCK YOU!!!!:|

Policy Violation (Copyright - Serving)

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> From: Comcast Abuse Department [abuse@attbi.com]
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> Comcast has been made aware that you have violated the Comcast Service Agreement and/or
> Acceptable Usage Policy. These policies can be found at
> http://help.broadband.att.com/security. Failure to comply with these policies may
> result in a permanent termination of your service. The account holder is solely
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> Type of violation: Distribution of Copyrighted Material
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> Related Policy: Acceptable Usage Policy: Prohibited uses include, but are not limited
> to, using Comcast Equipment (as defined in the
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> i. undertake or accomplish any unlawful purpose. This includes, but is not limited to,
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> xiii. run programs or servers from the Premises which provide network content or any
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> Explanation: Comcast has received notification of alleged copyright infringement
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> Action Required: We will require your timely assistance in blocking accessibility to
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So how should I reply those @$$es?
 

Entity

Lifer
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Did you violate the TOS? If so, I suggest you stop -- unless you don't want to have an account anymore. :p

Rob
 

Soybomb

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COMCAST, FVCK YOU!!!!
Comcast isn't monitoring you, but they've received a complaint from the holder of a copyright. I'm guessing pirated movies right? mpaa's been hitting isps hard lately.

Best thing to do would be remove the pirated material and tell them you took down any questionable content.
 

Vic

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Step 1: Don't reply. By replying, you would be giving them a "receipt."

Step 2: Stop sharing copyrighted materials.
 

newbiepcuser

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Originally posted by: Vic
Step 1: Don't reply. By replying, you would be giving them a "receipt."

Step 2: Stop sharing copyrighted materials.

Yeah, remove the p0rn.

Ron Jermey needs to get paid.
 

UncleWai

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Today I realized usenet is limited to 1GB/month, now this?
My anger meter is awfully high right now.
My english class needed me to watch mulholland drive.
The Blockbuster near my apartment didn't have it, so I had no choice but to borrow it from teh internet. It's such a horrible movie anyway, I don't see how Universal City Studios have the balls to file a complaint.
I think I will just open up ftp, every p2p and drain all the bandwidths.
Screw Comcast, I want them to ban me so I don't have to bound to their 1 year contract.

Re: Unauthorized Use of Universal Motion Pictures
> Notice ID: 455916
> 1 Jun 2003 20:04:05 GMT
>
> Dear Sir or Madam:
>
> Universal City Studios Productions LLLP and its affiliated companies (collectively, "Universal") are the exclusive owners of copyrights in many motion pictures, including the motion pictures listed below.
>
> It has come to our attention that AT&T WorldNet Services is the service provider for the IP address listed below, from which unauthorized copying and distribution (downloading, uploading, file serving, file "swapping" or other similar activities) of Universal?s motion picture(s) listed below is taking place. We believe that the Internet access of the user engaging in this infringement is provided by AT&T WorldNet Services or a downstream service provider who purchases this connectivity from AT&T WorldNet Services.
>
> This unauthorized copying and distribution constitutes copyright infringement under Section 106 of the U.S. Copyright Act . Depending upon the type of service AT&T WorldNet Services is providing to this IP address, it may have legal and/or equitable liability if it does not expeditiously remove or disable access to the motion picture(s) listed below, or if it fails to implement a policy that provides for termination of subscribers who are repeat infringers (see, 17 U.S.C. '512).
>
> Despite the above, Universal believes that the entire Internet community benefits when these matters are resolved cooperatively. We urge you to take immediate action to stop this infringing activity and inform us of the results of your actions. We appreciate your efforts toward this common goal.
>
> The undersigned has a good faith belief that use of the motion pictures in the manner described herein is not authorized by Universal, its agent or the law. The information contained in this notification is accurate. Under penalty of perjury, the undersigned is authorized to act on behalf of Universal with respect to this matter.
>
> Please be advised that this letter is not and is not intended to be a complete statement of the facts or law as they may pertain to this matter or of Universal?s positions, rights or remedies, legal or equitable, all of which are specifically reserved.
>
> Very truly yours,
>
> Aaron Markham
> Manager of Internet Anti-Piracy,
> Worldwide Anti-Piracy Operations
> VIVENDI UNIVERSAL ENTERTAINMENT.
> 100 Universal City Plaza
> Universal City, CA 91608
> tel. (818) 777-3111
> fax (818) 866-6339
> antipiracy@unistudios.com
>
> *pgp public key is available on the key server at ldap://keyserver.pgp.com
> Notice ID: 455916
>
> Title: Mulholland Drive
> Infringement Source: eDonkey
> Initial Infringement Timestamp: 30 May 2003 15:43:19 GMT
> Recent Infringment Timestamp: 30 May 2003 15:43:19 GMT
> Infringer Username: None
> Infringing Filename: Mulholland Drive (2001) CD01.avi
> Infringing Filesize: 734699520
> Infringers IP Address: 12.207.225.29
> Infringers DNS Name: 12-207-225-29.client.attbi.com
> Infringing URL: ed2k://12.207.225.29:4662/Mulholland Drive (2001) CD01.avi
>
> Title: Mulholland Drive
> Infringement Source: eDonkey
> Initial Infringement Timestamp: 30 May 2003 15:46:35 GMT
> Recent Infringment Timestamp: 30 May 2003 15:43:19 GMT
> Infringer Username: None
> Infringing Filename: Mulholland Drive (2001) CD02.avi
> Infringing Filesize: 727949312
> Infringers IP Address: 12.207.225.29
> Infringers DNS Name: 12-207-225-29.client.attbi.com
> Infringing URL: ed2k://12.207.225.29:4662/Mulholland Drive (2001) CD02.avi

 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
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No kidding. You accepted their terms of service. If you don't like to play by their rules, then don't play by their rules: just stop subscribing to Comcast. It's really kind of funny when someone comes along complaining about how they *deserve* this and that.

Heh...

Suck it up and take it like a man. Did you do it? Then take responsibility for your actions!


Here's another bit of advice: if you're going to do something, make damn sure that you won't get caught before you do it and accept the possibility that no matter how hard you try not to, there's always a chance of getting caught. If you do get caught, own up.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: UncleWai
Today I realized usenet is limited to 1GB/month, now this?

Wow, you must read a LOT of news...

My anger meter is awfully high right now.
My english class needed me to watch mulholland drive.
The Blockbuster near my apartment didn't have it, so I had no choice but to borrow it from teh internet. It's such a horrible movie anyway, I don't see how Universal City Studios have the balls to file a complaint.

And I'm sure that's the only time you've done that...

Screw Comcast, I want them to ban me so I don't have to bound to their 1 year contract.

You're sure you wouldn't still have to pay it?

It's not like they're punishing you or anything, they're just telling you to stop using their service to break the law. But yeah, they're the bad guys...
 

KK

Lifer
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I know this has been talked about before, but what if you put out bogus files and they threaten you and have your account closed, can you sue comcast and the MPAA?

KK
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: KK
I know this has been talked about before, but what if you put out bogus files and they threaten you and have your account closed, can you sue comcast and the MPAA?

KK

The undersigned has a good faith belief that use of the motion pictures in the manner described herein is not authorized by Universal, its agent or the law. The information contained in this notification is accurate. Under penalty of perjury, the undersigned is authorized to act on behalf of Universal with respect to this matter.

But good luck in court with that.
 

Yossarian

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Originally posted by: UncleWai
Today I realized usenet is limited to 1GB/month, now this?
My anger meter is awfully high right now.
My english class needed me to watch mulholland drive.
The Blockbuster near my apartment didn't have it, so I had no choice but to borrow it from teh internet. It's such a horrible movie anyway, I don't see how Universal City Studios have the balls to file a complaint.
I think I will just open up ftp, every p2p and drain all the bandwidths.
Screw Comcast, I want them to ban me so I don't have to bound to their 1 year contract.

Get a clue, man. You were stealing, you got caught. Be thankful it's just a warning and not a lawsuit. I'm sure you weren't assigned to watch the movie within the last day, it's your own fault for not being able to acquire it through legitimate means.
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
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It's not stealing or theft. It's unlawful copying. Stealing and theft are defined explicitly with the removal of property, not making a digital copy. He's breaking copyright laws, not stealing.
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: UncleWai
Nevermind, closing the thread.


How are you going to do that?

KK

He's going to beg like a little bitch to the Anandtech Moderators to lock this thread and it will die a slow death along with all the other "WHINE! COMPLAIN! I DESERVE THIS AND THAT!" crap that comes through here every so often.
 

Soybomb

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Heh a movie...who would have thought ;)

I've never seen them nab downloads, just those hosting and uploading the movies. So even though your "I had to download it" excuse is crap, you probably had it shared out for a while too didn't you?

I think I will just open up ftp, every p2p and drain all the bandwidths.
Screw Comcast, I want them to ban me so I don't have to bound to their 1 year contract.
I don't think you understand whats happening here. Comcast doesn't really care what you do all that much. The owners of the material do though. Comcast won't do anything more than close your account to avoid the hassle. The owners of the copyrighted material will get your contact information from comcast and take you to court if they really want to. You have absolutely zero reason to be upset with comcast for anything.
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
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I see you changed your title. Virtuous consumers? Try people who understand that there are rules out there that have consequences for abiding by them and consequences for breaking them. You are willing to accept the consequences of longer service after abiding by them. But you're not willing to accept the consequences of breaking them?

rolleye.gif
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
I see you changed your title. Virtuous consumers? Try people who understand that there are rules out there that have consequences for abiding by them and consequences for breaking them. You are willing to accept the consequences of longer service after abiding by them. But you're not willing to accept the consequences of breaking them?

rolleye.gif

you know, virtuous is a good thing....

btw i totally agree with your earlier post clarifying certain words in the english language. i can't believe how many people get that wrong.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
It's not stealing or theft. It's unlawful copying. Stealing and theft are defined explicitly with the removal of property, not making a digital copy. He's breaking copyright laws, not stealing.
Wow. Thank you. Seriously. So many people seem so unable to grasp that simple concept. I think it's all the media brainwashing of late.

Also, this was not "law enforcement" that took place here. This was a private investigation with the threat of civil action.
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
It's not stealing or theft. It's unlawful copying. Stealing and theft are defined explicitly with the removal of property, not making a digital copy. He's breaking copyright laws, not stealing.
Wow. Thank you. Seriously. So many people seem so unable to grasp that simple concept. I think it's all the media brainwashing of late.

Also, this was not "law enforcement" that took place here. This was a private investigation with the threat of civil action.

You're right about the law enforcement part. Nobody with authority is enforcing the law. That branch of the government isn't involved, yet. But they're making their case -a mental note, if you will. If this continues, Comcast will probably just close his account to avoid being sued for client information like those Verizon assholes gave up about their clients. Now, don't get me wrong. If they did it, then they need to pay the penalty if caught. But I just hate Verizon period. :p