Clooney vs. O'Reilly

Infohawk

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O'Reilly said:
?A national TV telethon will raise millions and ?The Factor? will be watching to see if the money gets to the tsunami victims. If it does not, there will be trouble. And this time nobody can say they weren?t warned,? O?Reilly said last Thursday on his show, "The O'Reilly Factor."


Sounds like O'Reilly is trying to intimidate people not to help Tsunami relief. He tried to take a cheap-shot at "celebrities" and....

...Clooney responds:
?I don?t make as much money as you, Mr. O?Reilly (a fact that?s easy to check), but I?m fascinated by your use of the word CELEBRITY as if you?re not one... you put on make up, you do Leno, The Today Show, go on book tours, and do junkets, so let?s be clear... you are a well paid celebrity. So all right, Mr. Journalist... come on in. I?m booking the talent for the Tsunami event ... and you, Mr. O?Reilly, are now officially invited to be a presenter ... So what do you say, Mr. O?Reilly ... either you ante up and help out AND be that watch dog that you feel we clearly need ... or you simply stand on the sidelines and cast stones, proving that your January 6 TV show was nothing more than a ?box of lights and wires? designed to make you wealthy.?

Well-played by Clooney. O'Reilly is a perverted, hypocritical sleaze. Not unlike a certain vice-president.

 

Perknose

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, O'Reilly is now officially Clooney's bltch! :laugh:
 

Infohawk

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O'Reilly is stooping to new levels of sleeze isn't he? Trying to interfere with Tsunami relief?
 

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O'REILLY AGREES TO JOIN ARCH-FOE CLOONEY
Newsman Bill O'Reilly has accepted George Clooney's offer to join the presenters at this weekend's tsunami relief telethon after a fiery war of words between the pair.

O'Reilly upset Clooney last week when he questioned the organization of the televised charity event, prompting the movie star to fire off a nasty letter to the Fox anchorman.

And when O'Reilly poked fun at Clooney's letter on his "O'Reilly Factor" show on Monday, the "Ocean's Twelve" star fired back with an ultimatum.

He wrote, "Former Presidents Bush and Clinton believe this is an important enough event to participate in. We're not playing games here, we're trying to save lives.

"It's as simple as this; you're either with this joint effort or against it. We need an answer immediately."

O'Reilly's aides have confirmed the newsman will join the "Tsunami Aid: A Concert of Hope" effort on Saturday night.

O'Reilly and Clooney are used to battling over televised benefits -- the O'Reilly criticized the actor for his involvement in a post-Sept. 11 telethon, claiming the organization was so bad that the needy didn't get the cash they were promised.
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I'm still shocked that O'Reilly makes more money than Clooney. WOW
 

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O'Rielly also seems to feel that given the amount of corruption in handling of emergency aid by the UN and other nations, it is better to let an accountable organization like the Red Cross handle the aid/effort distribution.
 

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I think Bill O'Reilley is correct, even though many people here are swooning over George Clooney. These celebrities get into these charitable endevours as a means of self promotion. It's all publicity. Plus, one you deduct the expenses for all the expensive food, hotel rooms, limos, and what not, I'd be curious how much money really goes to the starving Tsunami orphans in Sri Lanka.
 

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Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
O'Rielly also seems to feel that given the amount of corruption in handling of emergency aid by the UN and other nations, it is better to let an accountable organization like the Red Cross handle the aid/effort distribution.


The UN is accountable too. The US is a member of the UN. There's been corruption in the US government, should we disband it too or do you just hate the UN?
 

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Originally posted by: maddogchen]
O'Reilly's aides have confirmed the newsman will join the "Tsunami Aid: A Concert of Hope" effort on Saturday night.
And attention whores everywhere marvel at the success of his snit fit! But will Bill criticize his own effort? Stay tuned (which is really the whole point anyway . . .). :roll:
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: MisterCornell
I think Bill O'Reilley is correct, even though many people here are swooning over George Clooney. These celebrities get into these charitable endevours as a means of self promotion. It's all publicity. Plus, one you deduct the expenses for all the expensive food, hotel rooms, limos, and what not, I'd be curious how much money really goes to the starving Tsunami orphans in Sri Lanka.

So now that O'Reilly is in the event do you think he's just a selfish jerk like the rest of them or do you prefer to be inconsistent?
 

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
O'Reilly is stooping to new levels of sleeze isn't he? Trying to interfere with Tsunami relief?

Huh?

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?A national TV telethon will raise millions and ?The Factor? will be watching to see if the money gets to the tsunami victims. If it does not, there will be trouble. And this time nobody can say they weren?t warned,? O?Reilly said last Thursday on his show, "The O'Reilly Factor."
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I watched the part of the show where he talked about this.

He pointed out that $1 billion went to Iran in the aftermath of the earthquake there, but only $17 million made it to disaster victims.

You have a problem with the media bird dogging the process to make sure the donations are used properly?

 

Infohawk

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He is a sleeze. He is just trying to bleet about evil hollywood liberals and is chilling fund-raising activity. That is lame. He should not be getting in the way-- especially when he's a huge perverted dispicable sleeze. He has no credibility to take on a supervisory role. So his problem is with fund-raising? Why is he specifically targeting celebrities, a group which he is a part of but tries to weasel out of?
 

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Infohawk
O'Reilly is stooping to new levels of sleeze isn't he? Trying to interfere with Tsunami relief?

Huh?

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?A national TV telethon will raise millions and ?The Factor? will be watching to see if the money gets to the tsunami victims. If it does not, there will be trouble. And this time nobody can say they weren?t warned,? O?Reilly said last Thursday on his show, "The O'Reilly Factor."
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I watched the part of the show where he talked about this.

He pointed out that $1 billion went to Iran in the aftermath of the earthquake there, but only $17 million made it to disaster victims.

You have a problem with the media bird dogging the process to make sure the donations are used properly?

The Media/Celebrities made those broken promises? O'Reilly's statement was stupid to begin with and appeal to his audience and not some Morality as he implied.
 

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Haha... Infohawk posted a rip-on-O'Reilly topic and had to slap himself when O'Reilly accepted :)

Hollywood fund-raisers are notoriously inefficient endeavors that serve more to promote celebrity altruism than serve victims.

I believe O'Reilly is sincere in his "Looking out for you" mantra, and I give him props in not caving to the PC winds.
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: cwjerome
Haha... Infohawk posted a rip-on-O'Reilly topic and had to slap himself when O'Reilly accepted :)

Hollywood fund-raisers are notoriously inefficient endeavors that serve more to promote celebrity altruism than serve victims.

I believe O'Reilly is sincere in his "Looking out for you" mantra, and I give him props in not caving to the PC winds.

The fact that O'Reilly accepted is great and shows that he got controlled by Clooney. Now he basically to put his money where is mouth is.

I don't feel the need to respond to anything else you wrote given you have consistently failed to back up your absurd claims in the past. Cheers.
 

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Originally posted by: cwjerome
Haha... Infohawk posted a rip-on-O'Reilly topic and had to slap himself when O'Reilly accepted :)

Hollywood fund-raisers are notoriously inefficient endeavors that serve more to promote celebrity altruism than serve victims.

I believe O'Reilly is sincere in his "Looking out for you" mantra, and I give him props in not caving to the PC winds.



I think you need to look up "altruism" in the dictionary.

 

cwjerome

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The fact that O'Reilly accepted is great and shows that he got controlled by Clooney.

Yeah... he got so controlled this media attention will certainly help his ratings :roll:

O'Reilly pwned you and Clooney :)

EDIT: sierrita, your pm is turned off so I'll ask you here: Why do I need to look up altruism?
 

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
O'Rielly also seems to feel that given the amount of corruption in handling of emergency aid by the UN and other nations, it is better to let an accountable organization like the Red Cross handle the aid/effort distribution.


The UN is accountable too. The US is a member of the UN. There's been corruption in the US government, should we disband it too or do you just hate the UN?

Look at the oil for food situation within the UN.
They do not want to be held accountable.

Presently multiple UN agencies have been acting as if they do not have to be accountable for their actions and the head of the UN seems to be preventing any accountability.

The Red Cross seems to be as experienced (if not more so) than some of the political operations within the UN with respect to handling emergency aid relief.

I feel more comfortable with letting them control the distribution than allowing third world pols control it.

 

Infohawk

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I could point to similar US fiascos in the past and say that the US does not want to be accountable. We are responsible for holding the US government accountable and the member-states --- USA included--- are responsible for holding the UN accountable.

And frankly I'd rather see the money go to the UN than the US which had shown itself to be too partisan and might not share aid fairly if the past is any indicator.
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: KidViciou$
hahahahahahahahahaha, clooney shut o'reilly DOWN!

What?! Haven't you read what WCjerome said? Apparently O'Reilly shut down clooney when he accepted Clooney's invitation! :roll:
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: cwjerome
The fact that O'Reilly accepted is great and shows that he got controlled by Clooney.

Yeah... he got so controlled this media attention will certainly help his ratings :roll:

O'Reilly pwned you and Clooney :)

EDIT: sierrita, your pm is turned off so I'll ask you here: Why do I need to look up altruism?

Because that sentence didn't make any sense.
 

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O'Reilly's problem with celebrity fundraising isn't that it shouldn't be done, its that the celebrities come, donate what basically amounts to pocket change (with a few notable exceptions being Bulloch recently etc)...and then take off. For most its a publicity stunt and nothing more. His big issue is that some celebs take advantage of situations by making appearances / lending their names to the cause...yet feel they have no responsibility when it comes to making sure the aid money actually gets to its intended destination. Don't get me wrong, O'Reilly can certainly act like an ass, but I feel he is right in this situation. If a celebrity is going to take part in any sort of fundraising, they should (in some fashion) be responsible for making sure the money gets to where it needs to be.

Clooney did own him by calling him out though...well thought out move there.
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: BunLengthHotDog
O'Reilly's problem with celebrity fundraising isn't that it shouldn't be done, its that the celebrities come, donate what basically amounts to pocket change (with a few notable exceptions being Bulloch recently etc)...and then take off. For most its a publicity stunt and nothing more. His big issue is that some celebs take advantage of situations by making appearances / lending their names to the cause...yet feel they have no responsibility when it comes to making sure the aid money actually gets to its intended destination. Don't get me wrong, O'Reilly can certainly act like an ass, but I feel he is right in this situation. If a celebrity is going to take part in any sort of fundraising, they should (in some fashion) be responsible for making sure the money gets to where it needs to be.

Clooney did own him by calling him out though...well thought out move there.

So unless you oversee an entire process, you shouldn't help at all? That's absurd. Celelbrities specialize at publicity, not financial oversight. It's ridiculous to demand that they be the accountant's as well. It was just a cheap pot shot at "celelbrities" to satisfy the red-state knuckle-draggers who think LA is evil. It's garbage. The celebs are helping out in a way they are appropriate for. O'Reilly can hire some accountants if he's so worried about it.
 

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: BunLengthHotDog
O'Reilly's problem with celebrity fundraising isn't that it shouldn't be done, its that the celebrities come, donate what basically amounts to pocket change (with a few notable exceptions being Bulloch recently etc)...and then take off. For most its a publicity stunt and nothing more. His big issue is that some celebs take advantage of situations by making appearances / lending their names to the cause...yet feel they have no responsibility when it comes to making sure the aid money actually gets to its intended destination. Don't get me wrong, O'Reilly can certainly act like an ass, but I feel he is right in this situation. If a celebrity is going to take part in any sort of fundraising, they should (in some fashion) be responsible for making sure the money gets to where it needs to be.

Clooney did own him by calling him out though...well thought out move there.

So unless you oversee an entire process, you shouldn't help at all? That's absurd. Celelbrities specialize at publicity, not financial oversight. It's ridiculous to demand that they be the accountant's as well. It was just a cheap pot shot at "celelbrities" to satisfy the red-state knuckle-draggers who think LA is evil. It's garbage. The celebs are helping out in a way they are appropriate for. O'Reilly can hire some accountants if he's so worried about it.


I am not talking about "financial oversite", thats a bit too deep...I am referring to the fact that there are actually people who will send money to aid foundations / funds etc based on what celebrity speaks on their behalf. Many people like Clooney, some to the point of donating to whatever charity he sees fit to speak up for. Even if its a very minute % that donate based on which celebrity was there, I think it still is important for said celebrity to at least attempt to make sure all is well. This isnt about overseeing the entire process, its about taking SOME responsibility for the process. O'Reilly's intentions are irrelevant, sure he is doing this for exposure...but the message remains true.