Cloning

[Brian23]

Do you guys think cloning CDs that don't belong to you is wrong?

 

[AFB]

As long as you return the copyand the orginal

Hell, as long as you don't sell it.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: Brian23
Do you guys think cloning CDs that don't belong to you is wrong?

If you sell your copy, yes. If you keep it for yourself i'm indifferent.

 

[judasmachine]

they weren't arresting kids back in the 80s for making mix tapes, and giving them to their friends, even when they did it thousands of times...

 

[Klixxer]

Yes i do think it is wrong, a cloned cd is theft of information just like a copy of whatever cd that contains copyrighted material.

Either set the limit with the law or let's just ignore all laws and don't mind me while i steal your car.

 

[Wag]

I hate it.

My clone gaW loves it.

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: Brian23
Do you guys think cloning CDs that don't belong to you is wrong?

Depends on the content.

Music...i'll copy all i want. I have no guilt. Artists make most money from concerts, advertising and sponsors.
The record industry needs some serious reform. They are rich off consumers and the creators of the content.
Just so you know, this is legal in Canada.

Movies...usually pay themselves off quite easily at the box office. If i have to sit through advertising to watch something i paid for, that advertising has paid off my ripping of the movie. Of course i have gone to enough crap movies to warrent d/ling the ones i didnt see in theatres.
I usually buy the good ones anyways.

Software...i steal off microsoft. I feel no guilt in this. They are not hard up for cash at all. All stock holders are happy, the company is happy, and why would i help fuel lawsuits for a product i support (linux). The access to open source should not be hindered by MS. Their long list of anticompetitive practices has created one option for me...and forcing me to pay top dollar for that is wrong imo. Also the variable prices they offer go against good economics. The company has not earned my support (cash wise at least).

I do buy non-MS software. I usually try the app first though.

And i never sell.

 

[Kibbo]

Although it is illegal, I think that the IP laws in our systems can often be too restrictive. I've a buddy who just finished up law school, who kinda unofficially specialized in IP law, and he's the biggest Warezer I know. To a certain extent, IP laws are neccessary in order to encourage innovation. OTOH, the lack if information flows can often clamp down on innovation. I think that some happy medium should be found.

Personally, I have no problem ripping off CDs that I've owned before. I also have no problem taking individual songs from artists, either, as a sort of sampler. But I also know that I'm not the sort of person to slap down $20 to buy a CD for one song. I've actually gone out and bought CDs when I found myself downloading a few from that album.

I also think that after a certain time, this stuff should become public "property." And a lot sooner than 70 years later.

And, I think that MS uses uncompetitive business practices, and that downloading as a form of civil disobedience is morally ok, though I still think that the laws should be enforced, as I do with all forms of civil disobedience.

The laws as they stand are too restrictive, but I think that we still need some law.