cloning ssd trouble

Brado78

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Hey Guys I cloned my ssd with windows 7, The health and benchmarks of the drive show it is working properly, but the drive loads windows and acts exactly like a regular HDD, does cloning windows 7 sometimes have this affect on an ssd?

Thanks Guys
 

Coup27

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Can you post some benchmark scores (eg. crystaldiskmark) and give us some information about the specification of your computer.
 

Elixer

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Yeah, kinda sounds like the cloning program you used didn't align the SSD correctly...
So we need to know what SSD it is &, what cloning software you used.
 

Brado78

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The Specs are:

Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-G41MT-S2PT Ver 2.0
CPU -Intel Dual Core E5700
Ram 4GB DDR3

The board does not support AHCI, I used Easeuse Todo back up. The SSD is a Sandisk Ultra II 240gb

Crystal Benchmarks are

Seq Read 231.7 MB
512K-165.2
4K - 28.74
4k QD32 - 33.45

Seq Writes 214.8
512K- 213.3
4K- 51.49
4K Qd32- 83.06

alignment-103424KB OK
 

Brado78

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Larry- I don't know what winsat is? the program was EASEUS TODO Backup version 6.5
 

VirtualLarry

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WinSAT is what generates the WEI scores. It also "tunes" the OS for SSD, if it detects one.

When you say that the new SSD acts "just like a HDD", what exactly do you mean by that? Strictly speaking, that is true, it's a SATA-interface persistent storage device that is sector-addressable just like a HDD is.

Is this your first SSD? Or are you cloning from a prior SSD? If you are already "used to" the performance of an SSD in this computer, then a newer SSD (especially a TLC-based one) is hardly going to be any faster.

Even an SSD may not be obviously faster than a fast HDD, for some tasks, especially if you are unconsciously limiting your I/O multi-tasking, due to years of dealing with a HDD that slows down if you "do too much" with it at a time.

One objective thing that made me glad I switched to SSDs, and a benchmark I run on new systems, is to download and install Malwarebytes (from www.malwarebytes.org ), and run a scan on a freshly-installed OS.

A scan on an SSD system will complete in less than half the time that it takes with a HDD system, generally.
 

Brado78

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Hey Larry, I cloned windows 7, from a Western Digital Blue, but the SSD takes as long to boot up, and shut down. Programs load a little faster but not much....I have a Kingston SV300 in my Laptop and it is faster then my Sandisk Ulra II
 

Elixer

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4 SATA 3Gb/s devices, no AHCI?
That is your problem right there, not the clone.

SATA II (revision 2.x) interface, formally known as SATA 3Gb/s, is a second generation SATA interface running at 3.0 Gb/s. The bandwidth throughput, which is supported by the interface, is up to 300MB.
Example: SanDisk Extreme SSD, which supports SATA 6Gb/s interface and when connected to SATA 6Gb/s port, can reach up to 550/520MB/s sequential read and sequential write speed rates respectively. However, when the drive is connected to SATA 3 Gb/s port, it can reach up to 285/275MB/s sequential read and sequential write speed rates respectively.
I would swap out the Ultra II, put it in the laptop, and use the kingston here, assuming the laptop is SATA III.
 

Brado78

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Elixer- The laptop is also Sata II but it does have ahci, do Sandforce controllers handle no ahci better then Marvell's?
 

Elixer

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Sandforce uses compression (and has better GC), so it is better off in a non AHCI machine IMO.
 

lenjack

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You need to be sure you have proper ssd alignment and ahci for best results. Your cloning software should have provision for the alignment. The ahci is usually set up with the OS setup, and tricky to change after if it's ide.